I am fed-up with the DEMOCRATS. Rockefeller goes from show to show

[LittleApple81]

(watched MTP and now Face the Nation) saying that he disagrees with the report THAT HE AND ALL THE OTHER DEMOCRATS IN THE COMMITTEE SIGNED making it unanimous approval. DAMN it, if you did not agree DON'T APPROVE IT!

[burned]

1. I get the impression

that he wanted to get this much out as soon as possible.
At least thats what I understood as his reason for signing off on it as it stood.
He has mentioned at every turn his disagreements.

[HFishbine]

2. Always an excuse

I'm fed up to. What else does this "I voted for it, but that doesn't mean I approve of it" mentality remind me of?

[union_maid]

3. He said it and it was VERY important.

He let it be known that the statement about no evidence of pressure from the Bush administration was a deal to get the report released. In saying what he did, Rockefeller told the country a whole lot of truth.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

4. There are deals that have to be made to get certain things done...

...the report is out, and it is NOT doing the job the NeoCons had wished it would do...mainly to stop the questions from that part of the media that appears to be revolting against the NeoCons.

Additionally, the quicker it could be released, the quicker Dems like Rockefeller could let us all know about the SECOND part of the report alleging NeoCon pressure on the intel agencies that will not be released until after the election. Questions are already being raised about WHY the second part of the report was not released now.

Regardless of whether or not the Dems had signed it, that report was going to be released by the NeoCons. Slowing it down would have slowed down the release of material that is already deemed to be damaging to the NeoCons.

[Ducks In A Row]

6. If it was going to get out anyway....

not signing it would have been far more ethical.

That way not only could Rockefeller stand on the high ground over the issue of pressure, but he could point out that the R's released it all by themselves because the D's wouldn't sign on to a lie.

Rockefeller and the D's signing it disgust me. I was hoping we could be past that after these years of Bush/Cheney.

[bear425]

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[hlthe2b]

5. Actually, I am very pleased that Rockefeller is getting his points across

despite the Dems having been handcuffed by the majority repugs.... He made some incredibly important and almost shockingly direct comments on MTP, this morning. I can not wait to see the transcript and won't butcher his statements by weak attempts to paraphrase until then. But, I think our frustration needs to be at the reality-- the take no prisoners, no morals REPUGs must loose majority status before we can fairly accuse DEMS of not adequately standing up for our principles. It is a dance right now against a very ruthless opponent-- and one who has no intent of losing, no matter the harm to the American people.

[0007]

7. I agree with you hlthe2b -

[Redleg]

8. Yes he has. We should applaud rather than slander Rockefeller.

I'm getting awefully damn sick and tired of seeing DUers taking the Dems to task for the sins of Bush and the GOP. Yes, I do wish the Dems were more vocal and more forceful about these things.

[LittleApple81]

11. I never "slandered" Rockefeller. I just said everytime you sign on

a document and the repugs can say is unanimously bipartisan, that is what is going to stay on the record. There might be "political" reasons do sign, but the repugs can always say: but you agreed with it and it was unanimous and it was bipartisan. That is what happened with the Iraq war.
Don't acuse DUers of stuff they are not doing. This is a discussion forum, as far as I know.

[Rose Siding]

9. Rockefeller

...is the only Senator I'm aware of who has publicly decried his IWR vote. I respect him greatly.

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP)--U.S. Sen. Jay Rockefeller regrets his vote to authorize a war against Iraq.

``If I had known then what I know now, I would have voted against it,'' Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said Friday. ``I have admitted that my vote was wrong.''
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``We had this feeling we could be welcomed as liberators. Americans don't know history, geography, ethnicity. The administration had no idea of what they were getting into in Iraq. We are not internationalists. We border on being isolationists. We don't know anything about the Middle East.''

Rockefeller also said he is disturbed at the failure to involve the United Nations in creating a new government and finding peace in Iraq.

Many of the senator's feelings were strengthened last week during a weeklong trip with four other Democratic senators to Iraq and four other Middle Eastern nations.
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``They have three million pieces of paper,'' Rockefeller said. ``But it is a sham. There is nothing to point to any weapons of any kind.''

Rockefeller said the influence of terrorist groups, such as al-Qaida, is growing in Iraq. He estimated that only about 5 percent of insurgents in Iraq are recent arrivals, with the rest ``homegrown.''

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/ap/ap...feller-Ira.html

[calico1]

14. I respect Rockefeller and I think he has been

expressing his opinions very thoroughly, eloquently and articulately.

[buycitgo]

15. Feinstein did so today on TV

she was on opposite Olympia Snow, who hemmed and hawed, looking very, uh, flipfloppy on the subject

Feinstein was forceful in her regret, making Snow look like the worst kind of waffler; Snow clearly wanted to say she wouldn't vote for it, knowing what she knows, but she's toeing the fascist line, just like the good little soldierette she is

[paulk]

12. Rockefeller and the Democrats are putting the national interest

ahead of partisan politics.

The first part of the report points out some very real problems with our intelligence services, and lays out ways for these problems to be addressed. Our national security is at stake here. The Democrats did the right thing - placing our national security ahead of partisan political interests - something the Republicans will not do.

Someone has to be the grown up here.

[kentuck]

13. They were outsmarted...

It was initially scheduled to be finished in 6 months, then 9 months, then 1 year... If the Democrats had refused to go along with the release of the report at this time, they would have been accused of "playing politics". The Repubs outsmarted them. The Democrats finally took a "half-loaf" over nothing and saved themselves from being blamed for preventing the release of the report, just because it didn't criticize Bush...