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emc Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:51 PM
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Martial law after suspension of elections
You know things are starting to fall into place---Bushes attitude about the NAACP, his flipping birds, --his cavalier attitude about the election , his support of Dickless Cheney and now this new article about the study by Tom Ridge , if the elections should be postponed if there is an attack on the US.

I see that with the elections put off, and the American public wanting to know when they will be held again, the time will have come for the government to institute martial law and permanently postpone the election---- then what do we have---a dictatorship, and bush in his own words, made the statement, he would rather be a dictator then an elected official, since it would be easier to run and rule the little people....
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:56 PM
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1. I agree a 100%.
They apparently don't care about a lot of voters.Damn ! They even don't care about the Cuban vote in Florida with all those new sanctions.Yep,they're up to something and it won't be pretty!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:59 PM
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2. When Cheney didn't even give a 'pretend' apology over saying
"fuck you" to a U.S. Senator . . . that's when I started wondering if those guys intend to worry about any kind of election at all.


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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:01 PM
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3. even though it may not be
'politically correct' around here to admit fear, i'm scared. truly.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:02 PM
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4. Even martial law wouldn't keep people from demonstrating
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 01:03 PM by Hardhead
What are they gonna do, call out the National Guard? Many of the locals in the guard just shipped off to Iraq.

My participation as a subject of this government is null and void if they cancel the elections. That is the stupidest, bloodiest mistake they could make.

So they'll probably try it.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:06 PM
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5. They won't have the willing participaton of the military
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 01:06 PM by Lex
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and they would have to have that in order to effect a coup.

That is the only thing that gives me some comfort.

Unless they have rigged up some way to threaten to kill thousands of our citizens with a nuclear bomb if our military marches on them to depose them.

Yes, I have given this thought because I see in their actions a refusal to give a shit about what any of the citizens care about. It's like they think they are there for life and don't have to answer to us at all.




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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:11 PM
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7. Martial law & 'troops' -there are plenty of rabid freepers willing....
to enlist for the martial law to come.

and let us not forget that bottomless barrel of hireable mercs.

sour times ahead.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:11 PM
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6. Nat'l Guard
Hardhead, evidently you are too young to remember the Nat'l Guard shooting at and killing several Kent State students who were participating in a VietNam protest. Damn, I hope it doesn't come to this again....the whole atmosphere is a Deja Vu feeling from the Nixon/Anti-war era.
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emc Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:26 PM
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8. Kent state all over again
Your right---and whats makes this all so bad is that the young people in this country who didn't go through this period of time (Kent state), don't give a rats ass about whats going on today---I hear them say they are supporting Bush under any circumstances---this is out west now, maybe the climate out here is different, but this has got me wondering???

Most of the papers out here have gone conservative also--which infuriates me---they wont even print anything by a liberal---

I am personally of the opinion that we are going to be the first people who will witness a revolution in this country since the civil war---

I don't see things getting any better for the elections at this point---and then there is one more factor which hasn't been discussed recently or people don't want to think about it is, the termination of Kerry before the elections----it happened with Robert Kennedy and it can happen again----was just reading about it in Bill Clinton's book and I did live through that period in Washington DC, myself..

Think of the kaos---------
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:43 PM
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10. I agree
Your post stated exactly my thoughts....do you feel it too? The 60s all over again. Hell, a good revolution would certainly clear the air a big, but who would lead it? Like you said the youngsters are in never-never land, it would have to be the oldsters like us. Power to the People.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:42 PM
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9. The Military

The United States military will not cooperate with this. Also, remember that the national guard and state troopers are not directly controlled by the federal government, but by the governors of the individual states. No Democratic governor would assist the BFEE with a takeover. As for the other side, do you think that Pataki, e.g., would cooperate with the institution of martial law in New York City? Mitt Romney filling the streets of Boston with troops?

I doubt it. The citizens of the Federal District of Columbia likely have the most to worry about, sadly.

Remember that the Russian military would not support the coup attempts there in the early 1990s. I realize that the analogy is not perfect, but if it didn't work in a totalitarian state, I don't think the declaration of martial law and the transformation of the government into a dictatorship will happen here.

Remember also that this plan will terrify many conservatives.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:47 PM
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11. I wouldn't put it past * to nuke a U.S. city,

not with trillions of dollars in oil and contracts at stake, and his minions assuring him that God wants him to do it.

What we know for sure about this administration is that they don't care about American lives, or foreign lives, or about people at all--all they care about is money and power.

All I can hope for is that they cheney it up so bad that they cheney themselves in the process--and that's something they are good at.

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:57 PM
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12. Uh, the two will go hand-in-hand
(And the goodamned Dems -- incl Kerry -- better start making a lot of noise about this RIGHT NOW, pre-emptively!!)

Anyway, this administration (1) has PROMISED us another attack on the "homeland;" (2) if there's another attack, they WILL impose martial law; (3) if they do that, they'll suspend elections.

There would be no way to get away with "postponing" or suspending elections without another terrorist attack. But with a properly fearful populace, they can no doubt get away with it.

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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:00 PM
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13. Calm down, guys .... don't let justifiable paranoia ...
swarm into more than what is justified.

Personally, I do not think that ANY of the rest of the institutions of government would go along with that. Not the Congress, not the courts, not the people.

And not the military.

These soldiers are the sons and daughters of America. They would never lightly turn their guns on the citizens.
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