Anti-choice site says contraceptives are a "social ill"

[Scairp]

Nice people these. No contraceptives wanted, birth control is bad, make people want to have sex. Looney left my ass. These morans are just plain wacko.

One More Soul (OMS) is a non-profit organization dedicated to spreading the truth about the blessings of children and the harms of contraception. We carry a wide variety of educational resources, including tapes, videos, and books. Click here to see our on-line catalog.

We were founded in 1993 by Steve Koob and Mary Ann Walsh, two Dayton, Ohio, pro-life veterans. Through their pro-life work they realized that the foundation of abortion is contraception, and that contraception must be rooted out before abortion would end. The more they learned about contraception the more they were convinced that it was at the root of numerous social ills.

http://www.omsoul.com/about.phtml

[NMDemDist2]

1. OMG that's scary eom

[Scairp]

2. Please keep bumped n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

3. That's always been the seminal purpose underlying antiabortion legislation

It has not been to protect unborn children.
It has not been to make better parents by valuing children more over the interests of the parents, especially the mother.
It has not been to promote morality throughout this country.

Criminalizing abortion, and birth control (even to married couples) has been and always will be about women engaging in sex in a carefree manner, without worry about conceiving a child. Enjoyment and sex don't belong together. Sex only for the purpose of procreation, and that's it -- I guess, until menopause.

[LittleApple81]

4. Nothing like running back to the repressive past to mark progress...n/t

[Scairp]

5. Kick n/t

[iconoclastic cat]

6. Idiots.

"contraception must be rooted out before abortion would end"

What kind of logic is that?

[lovedems]

7. ??????

I guess a prerequisite for being a RW fundamentalist these days is not to know what in the hell your are talking about.

Get rid of contraception and you can lower abortion numbers? I think Steve Koob and Mary Ann Walsh need to go back to High School for a lesson in Sex Education.

How dumb can these people possibly get?

[napi21]

8. I really doubt this anti BC will have much success.

WAY too many RW wouldn't support it...ever!

As far as I know, that's a Catholic thing, and even they're having a tough time getting their congregation to follow.

Talk about losing the entire female vote! I'm not even sure you'd get the male vote. Few things the majority of Americans agree on, but O'm sure they agree that it's unrealistic to think you can raise a BUNCH of children and not have to deprive them of "the lifestyle you think they should have".

Disregarding the financial part, most women don't they can mentaly handle more than 2, or at the very most 4 children.

The days of having 8, 10 or more children are GONE, no matter what religious or political side you're on.

[Scairp]

9. It isn't just a Catholic thing

It's a fundamentalist Christian thing too. Our favorite hypocritical scumbag, Randall Terry, always said that married couples should have sex and as many babies as they possibly can in their lifetime. No, this is the true goal of anti-choice Nazis, they want to control our personal lives as much as possible. All they are really doing by advocating against contraceptives is creating more unplanned pregnancies and more abortions.

[K-W]

10. Umm, this is a widely held right wing opinion

It springs up alot in relation to sex education. Bush is pro abstinance only sex ed here and abroad.

[Tweed]

11. Part of what they are saying makes sense

Birth control may not create the desire for people to have sex, but it does make it easier for people to have sex. If you don't have to worry about being a mother or father, then sex becomes much nicer. It's why contraceptives are so successful.

Their work to get contraceptives rooted out of society is a violation on both governmental & religious grounds. I don't partake in pre-martial sex myself. Birth control is not 100% safe and I am not ready to be a father. However, I'm not about to think that my actions should be law. As long as nothing is harming anyone, then the government has no reason to step in and monitor.

God will judge in the end. These people are not God and it's not their place to decide what is right and what is wrong.

They seem to keep quiet about their stances though. Their web site doesn't speak of any rallies, any letter writing campaigns or numbers to call your congressman. The web site just seeks to offer piece of literature and assistance if asked for. The people are not morons (or morans as you called them). They are just a little misguided. Since they aren't doing anything to harm you however, I recommend you leave them be.

[jmowreader]

12. Here's some really scary shit

http://www.omsoul.com/item385.html

"Sterilization Reversal--A Generous Act of Love"

Read the heart-warming tales of 20 families who went out and got unsnipped because they got the "grace to choose healing and wholeness."

Apparently, these 20 couples got snipped in the first place because they were having family troubles and thought making no more babies would solve them. They then found out their lives remained as fucked up after the surgery as they were before.

They also have tracts on the harmful effects of tubal ligation, the harmful effects of vasectomy, etc., etc., etc. You can even get a CD of a couple giving spoken testimony about how they're so glad they got the wife's tubal reversed.

I know, and my wife knows, that having a baby would essentially destroy our lives as we choose to live them, so these people are not for me.

[Scairp]

13. They shouldn't be for anyone

The most disturbing part about this group is that doctors are signing on to deny their female patients hormonal contraception. I cannot fathom why a doctor would do this, but it does happen.

[Nikia]

14. Having too many children can be a social ill

There are many large Catholic families in my home area. Until recently, the priests were really hard on people about using birth control and encouraging people to have lots of children. Some of these families ended up a lot poorer, including getting free or reduced lunches, than they would be if the families had been smaller. Some of these women were like Andrea Yates except they didn't kill their children. My father had a neighbor woman who had to visit the mental hospital after she had a baby after she had five children and ended up having 10 total. A couple of large families did alright and perhaps really were happy with their large group.
The problem I have with websites like this and the priests in my home area is that they hurt people who are economically unable to have large families or who are not able to handle this emotionally. They make these people feel like they are wrong and not being good Christians if they don't have lots of children.
As far as application to the general population, I think that increased birth control use actually lowers the abortion rate. There were unwanted pregnancies before there was good birth control available. One of the reasons for increased unwed pregnancies is that people are marrying later and that current dating culture encourage sex or is that caused by birth control.

[Scairp]

15. Not everyone can be the Waltons

Seven children and sensible, stable parents to raise them. My best friend was married into a family with ten children. None of them are any damn good. Her late mother in law told her once that, despite being Protestant, her Catholic doctor didn't believe in birth control and she was too ignorant to defy him (this was in the forties and fifties). Her ex's older brother is old enough to be his father. The woman had kids for twenty years.

The bottom line for these organizations is keeping women on a certain social ladder, not wanting to allow them to control their fertility and therefore have greater control over their lives. Men can have sex as they please, virtually, but women must always worry about pregnancy, at least until menopause. I for one, will not allow the hard fought right to birth control and other reproductive health choices be undermined for my own daughters.

[SharonAnn]

17. Why should supposedly celibate males tell women what to do?

I have never understaood how Catholics used to accept that. Today, they pretty much ignore those teachings and do what they think is right for them and their family.

And, just so you know, I am from a family of 8 children and I was raised Catholic. We had many families in our parish with form 6 - 14 children. Not all of them were able to handle it, financially or emotionally.

[CrispyQ]

16. Unwanted, uncared for children are a social ill.

Rich, white men who want to control everyone but themselves are a social ill.

GWB is a social ill.

Chenny is evil incarnate.

Damn! I wish the election was next week.