The Christian Taliban didn't just happen. RevMoon/CNP/BushInc MADE them.

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From moonwatcher@Bartcop...a mustshare post responding to the RNC's call for Kerry to release the fundraiser video. I posted that Bush refused to release the video from his policy speech to the Council for National Policy when he ran in 2000, despite many media attempts to secure the video. moonwatcher unmasks CNP and Moon and their REAL agenda of the Christian Taliban.

moonwatcher:


There were a couple posts about the CNP video - wasn't sure where to put this. It should be noted that the CNP later said that they would let the video of Bush pandering to the their extremist views go, but BUSH refused to allow them to release it.

From ABC News
In 1999, candidate George W. Bush spoke before a closed-press CNP session in San Antonio. His speech, contemporaneously described as a typical mid-campaign ministration to conservatives, was recorded on audio tape.

(Depending on whose account you believe, Bush promised to appoint only anti-abortion-rights judges to the Supreme Court, or he stuck to his campaign "strict constructionist" phrase. Or he took a tough stance against gays and lesbians, or maybe he didn't).

The media and center-left activist groups urged the group and Bush's presidential campaign to release the tape of his remarks. The CNP, citing its bylaws that restrict access to speeches, declined. So did the Bush campaign, citing the CNP.

Shortly thereafter, magisterial conservatives pronounced the allegedly moderate younger Bush fit for the mantle of Republican leadership.
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The CNP helped Christian conservatives take control of the Republican state party apparati in Southern and Midwestern states. It helped to spread word about the infamous "Clinton Chronicles" videotapes that linked the president to a host of crimes in Arkansas.
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The CNP remains obscure. Experienced Washingtonians often mistake them for another organization, the liberal Center for National Policy. The Washington Times reported Jan. 23 that Sen. John Kerry spoke to the Council for National Policy about AWNR drilling, when, in fact, the Massachusetts Democrat spoke to the Center for National Policy, a very different organization. Both the Council and Center are not to be confused with the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. Or the National Center for Policy Analysis.

(me: "Experienced Washingtonians often mistake them..." haha If the TWT didn't know what they were doing with that quote, I will eat Tucker's tie)
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CNP was conceived in 1981 by at least five fathers, including the Rev. Tim LaHaye, an evangelical preacher who was then the head of the Moral Majority. (LaHaye is the co-author of the popular Left Behind series that predicts and subsequently depicts the Apocalypse). Nelson Baker Hunt, billionaire son of billionaire oilman H.L. Hunt (connected to both the John Birch Society and to Ronald Reagan's political network), businessman and one-time murder suspect T. Cullen Davis, and wealthy John Bircher William Cies provided the seed money.
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Oh yes, the CNP and all their deceitful elves...

KELLEIGH: We know Ralph Reed is an adherent to Moon because in his book that came out, don't ask me the name of it because I don't know what it is, but it came out last October or November. He gave glowing reports in that book about Dr. Robert Grant and American Freedom Coalition. Dr. Robert Grant is a member of the Council For National Policy and American Freedom Coalition is a Moon front-organization within the Christian Right circles and the members of the Council For National Policy are widely known; James Dobson, Gary Bauer, Phyllis Schlafly, Don Wildmon. Jerry Falwell was a member at one time. I don't believe he is anymore. But, Pat Robertson, Nelson Bunker Hunt, all the names that you would know in the Christian Right that most uninformed Americans out there consider conservative. Isn't that right?
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Yes, we used to call the people we have allowed to control our government, "Bircher's" - extremists....same people today, just a bigger dose of Jesus to hide their extremism behind..

http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/disunity.htm

New York Times, November 19, 1961, page 1
KENNEDY ASSERTS FAR-RIGHT GROUPS PROVOKE DISUNITY
Attacks Birch Society and 'Minutemen' at a Party Dinner in Los Angeles
Spread of Fear Scored
by Tom Wicker

"There have always been those fringes of our society who have sought to escape their own responsibility by finding a simple solution, an appealing slogan or a convenient scapegoat," Mr. Kennedy said.
Now, he continued, "men who are unwilling to face up to the danger from without are convinced that the real danger comes from within."

"They look suspiciously at their neighbors and their leaders," he declared. "They call for a 'man on horseback' because they do not trust the people. They find treason in our finest churches, in our highest court, and even in the treatment of our water."

"They equate the Democratic Party with the welfare state, the welfare state with socialism, and socialism with communism. They object quite rightly to politics' intruding on the military -- but they are anxious for the military to engage in politics." ....
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New York Times, November 24, 1961, page 1
Eisenhower Says Officers Should Stay Out of Politics
Assails Extremists In TV Interview

Former President Dwight D. Eisenhower last night urged officers of the armed services to shun partisan politics.

Speaking as a General of the Army, he declared it was "bad practice -- very bad" for an officer, even when testifying under oath before a committee of Congress, to express opinions "on political matters or economic matters that are contrary to the President's." ...

The former President was blunt in discussing the recent "rise of extremists" in the country.

"I don't think the United States needs super-patriots," he declared. "We need patriotism, honestly practiced by all of us, and we don't need these people that are more patriotic than you or anybody else."

His definition of extremists embraced those who would "go back to eliminating the income tax from our laws and the rights of people to unionize... (and those)advocating some form of dictatorship." It also included those who "make radical statements (and)attack people of good repute who are proved patriots."
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How extreme is the John Birch Society? Besides putting out posters with Kennedy behind a bullseye the day before he arrived in Dallas...and at the risk of giving the extremist wingnut lurkers an erection....
here's the root of the new right...this is the mindset the new right feeds on...
http://www.revilo-oliver.com/Audio/Audio.html
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Moon said he would make senators out of his members if he didn't find the people to do his legwork in molding America to his liking...a theocratic state...he found all the help he needed in the Christian extremists who unknowingly have become MOON'S THEOCRATIC POLITICAL ARMY.

http://www.alternet.org/story/18259

But even as President George W. Bush denounced the brutal Islamic fundamentalist regime in Kabul, he was quietly laying the foundations for his own fundamentalist regime at home. For the first time far right Christian fundamentalists had one of their own in the White House and the opportunity to begin rolling back decades of health and family planning programs they saw as un-Christian, if not downright sinful.......

"God gave governments responsibility only for infrastructure and defense," according to an article by Rev. Bob Enyart, pastor of Denver Bible Church. "If government limited itself to its two just functions, thereby getting out of education, health care, farming, etc., it could better defend America. ... Christians who carefully study the Bible are best qualified to teach the world how it should be governed."
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Moon picked the Christian right up by the scruff of the neck and put them in power. Period. The "he" in this quote is Robert Grant head of Moon's front the American Freedom Coalition. This is all part of Moon's "Unite the Religions" campaign. A step in his plan. This is how he 'got them together'...they are following his lead and don't know it. Notice this isn't a "Christian" organization, it is a "Christian RIGHT" organization....

Moon picked who and how.

from: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/132/36.0.html

He(Robert Grant) emphasized that AFC is a political coalition formed because of the "inability of the 'Christian Right' to achieve its agenda "due to its "fragmentation and its failure to build coalitions with its philosophical allies from other communities for effective civic participation."

http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/moontranscript.shtml

Narrator: But Moon's influence over the AFC is underscored by this 1988 letter FRONTLINE obtained from a source who once worked within the Moon Organization. AFC President Robert Grant, writing to Reverend Moon, thanks him for investing heavily and "helping to bring the AFC into being." Grant concludes by telling Moon, "Without your leadership, vision and the support of your devoted followers, the AFC would not exist."

[jeff30997]

1. Well...

Moon is a crazy son of a bitch and i'm afraid that the US is becoming a theocracy...:scared:

[7th_Sephiroth]

2. yes, we see moon as a great threat

we have plans in place incase he goes past the line and the theocracy shit starts

[blm]

3. The "theocracy shit" IS happening all over the world.

And I do not believe it is by coincidence.

[7th_Sephiroth]

6. we are monitoring things

we will act if we need to

[blm]

7. Who's the 'we" you speak of?

I've been on this for a few years with some others, and haven't been let in on the course of action?

What's the story?

[7th_Sephiroth]

8. just some people interested in this kind of stuff

and keeping an eye on the news

[mopinko]

9. wtf

why bother to post this kind of stuff if you aren't gonna say? and what are you waiting for anyway? how much worse can it get? did "we" try to stop the faith based initiative? block any crazy Judaical appointments?

[7th_Sephiroth]

10. you'll see

and if we could have done anything judicially we'd be verry loud

[mopinko]

11. i think you need to up your meds

eom

[7th_Sephiroth]

12. meh

i just dont want to get into details on a site being monitored by the feds

[oasis]

4. Council for National Policy. We'll be keeping an eye on them.

[Cats Against Frist]

5. Get scared. Get scared NOW.

Harpers Magazine article "Jesus Plus Nothing,":

"Ivanwald, which sits at the end of Twenty-fourth Street North in Arlington, Virginia, is known only to its residents and to the members and friends of the organization that sponsors it, a group of believers who refer to themselves as “the Family.” The Family is, in its own words, an “invisible” association, though its membership has always consisted mostly of public men. Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N.Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as “members,” as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.). Regular prayer groups have met in the Pentagon and at the Department of Defense, and the Family has traditionally fostered strong ties with businessmen in the oil and aerospace industries. The Family maintains a closely guarded database of its associates, but it issues no cards, collects no official dues. Members are asked not to speak about the group or its activities."

http://www.harpers.org/JesusPlusNothing.html?pg=1.htm


& an interview with the author, Jeffrey Sharlet

"So what do you think is the end result that they're after? Is it only "power" in the abstract sense?"

They state their goals in their private documents pretty explicitly. A world leadership led by Christ. Every single world leader and politician making every decision under Christ's will. And you could quibble over semantics, but I would say that worldwide theocracy is their goal."

http://www.mediabistro.com/articles/cache/a46.asp


The Tennessean:

"The lawmakers, all of whom are Christian, pay low rent to live in the stately red brick, three-story house on C Street, two blocks from the Capitol. It is maintained by a group, alternately known as the ''Fellowship'' and the ''Foundation,'' that brings together world leaders and elected officials through religion."

http://www.tennessean.com/government/archives/03/04/31786118.shtml?Element_ID=31786118


The End Times Network (not sure how reliable this is, but they have citations):

"Historian Murray Levin writes that it didn't take the business community long to come up with the idea of enlisting members of the Christian community as "foot soldiers" and "grunts" in their war against trade-unionism and socialism - an effort which involved two strategies: (1) waving the "bloody shirt" of "atheistic socialism," and (2) contributing large sums of money to their churches and ministries. Big business would bludgeon organized labor into a bloody pulp using the "poor carpenter of Nazareth" as its cudgel. Employer groups everywhere were urged to use the power of the pulpit against organized labor. Indeed, one particularly powerful business spokesman asserted confidently:

"We have ... the pulpit ... through which to sell our message. We'll beat them (i.e., the labor activists and unions) to death with the cross of Christ." "


http://www.endtimesnetwork.com/oldnews/cedars.html

[UTUSN]

13. Kick for If-a-Kick-Was-Ever-Needed n/t

[oasis]

14. kick

[blm]

15. Thanks, UTUSN.

I believe Robert Grant is behindthescenes manipulating the Bad Catholic controversy that will be part of the election.

NOONE should look the other way. They have every intention of taking every Catholic Democratic politician out. They are using fundamentalism to do it.