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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:28 PM
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All who MARCHED against the invasion?
I have listened to Jay Rockefeller and his Republican ditto head for days concerning the Senate Intelligence report of faulty evidence leading to the Iraq invasion. I have yelled at my TV, SCREAMMED at news reports and cried myself to sleep. How do you live with these lies, distortions and half-truth after you have lost your child ( in BOTH countries!) ? I went to review the links I saved before the invasion and after.
There is absolutely no question the administration, Bushit and Chaney’s OSP manipulated the evidence to justify the invasion. If I know this and I assume millions of others do…. WHY can’t our government do the right thing and try these liars for treason. This is not Tenet’s fault. It lies squarely in the lap of the entire administration including Powell, Condi and Rummy…. and all their deputies…. no one is without culpability.
How can Democracy survive if this is allowed to not see the light of day…THIS IS NOT PARTISAN…when is someone going to have the spine to stand up for the truth?
This is 3 of the best website for all our newbies who may not have followed it closely. It will give you great ammunition when discussing the November election with swing voters. The ‘other side’ will never accept the truth…they have anointed Bushit the next comin’


http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq&iraq_themes=aluminumTubes

http://www.rotten.com/library/history/war/wmd/saddam/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:39 PM
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1. How come we the masses, who are untrained
in intelligence matters, knew the claims were bogus and demonstrated so many times in the streets before the war, but the CIA and our craven, mealy mouthed politicians (the Repthugs I understand, but the Dems, man, I dont know) would say today there were misled?

How many hundreds of thousands of anti-war letters did these lazy, cowardly, "faux patriotic" politicians not receive during the lead up to the war?
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:44 PM
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2. .....and how come Kucinich was RIGHT?
To answer your question; there is NO answer. WE READ.....Our leaders DON'T........What a commendary on our government....Lets NOT forget they didn't read the Patriots ACT either....Hey what's the BIG deal..It's ONLY the Bill of Rights we are talking about.:PUKE:
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:14 PM
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5. Dean was right too
as was Braun, Sharpton and Graham.
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joycep Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:51 PM
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3. I was just talking to my grandson about this
I did march. We talked about this stuff before the war. We talked about this on DU. We talked about this at Church. How in the world did we know and they did not? They did know. I get so angry I don't know what to do about all the lies.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:04 PM
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4. I marched in Detroit on a cold, cold day
It was about 5 degrees out, and we marched, thousands of us.

We knew the war was based on lies.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:44 PM
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6. Can't get an email on Jay Rockefeller......
none on his website...any ideas? Doesn't give you the warm and fuzzies that out democratic leadership doesn't want to hear from us!:PUKE:
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:31 AM
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16. try at
thomas.gov or votesmart.org
links for most of Congress there.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:54 PM
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7. It's pretty galling really. The evidence suggesting that Bushco was...
...lying or mis-representing the situation, that they claimed justified war on Iraq, was strong.

Millions marched to no avail. Congress folded and the missiles flew. That said I think the protests helped to galvanize overall anti-Bush feelings and bring together like minded people.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:00 PM
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8. I did.
It was especially tough back in 2002. Lot's of freepers threw beer bottles at me and threatened to kill me.
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:04 PM
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9. We can get Part 2 of the report now if we demand it
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 07:05 PM by IkeWarnedUs
In the press conferences on Friday - only shown one C-Span and easily missed - Three of the Senators from the Intelligence Committee said it is very possible and VERY important that we get the second half of their report released ASAP and certainly before the election.

Not only do the Senators not have to leave for a break in August - there are precedents for them to stay.

We have to demand that the rest of the report be done NOW!

Here is a thread I started with the Senators' words transcribed (by me).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1970315

We have to help them with this. We can do it.

Call Congress toll free - 800-839-5276

(Edit to add link to the thread)
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:05 PM
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10. Yes, this is what gets to me
We marched in Santa Barbara, California EVERY Saturday from September 2002 (starting just after the prescient comments from the admin about not rolling out a new product in August) until well past Mission Accomplished. A few stalwarts are STILL marching every week. We knew way before the State of the Union that the intelligence was against Saddam having active WMD--even though that term was being sadly misused to refer to chemical and biological weapons. The rest of the world knew very well. Scott Ritter was screaming bloody murder. Later, the inspectors confirmed his rants. There is NO excuse for anyone in congress not to have known, too. This whole idea of blaming the CIA, with no mention of the Office of Special Plans, or the DIA or the NSA or the intelligence coming from other countries besides our sycophants...it just makes me SICK!!! :puke:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:12 PM
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11. I marched the streets of Seattle
Seattle, with its progressive history of protest, from the IWW marches of the Wilson era, the general strike of 1920, to the WTO marches of 1999. I marched in every anti-Iraq war protest, and the International Women's Day March of 2003.

Here in northern Arizona, I have kept the drumbeat for peace alive.

We didn't stop the war, but we are vindicated, but at great cost.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:35 PM
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12. I marched against Bush at his fake inauguration
and 3 times against the war/
I knew the whole thing was bullshit from the getgo.
In the meantime, I never in my wildest dreams thought the POS would take one of our kids to his fraudulent war.
No one listened to us, we were a "focus group".
In the meantime, thousands of people are dead for
nothing.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com
I dont know if I can forgive the media, the politicians who stuck their heads in the sand, or the people who allowed Bush to get away with this.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:31 AM
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13. And the Democrats made a deal..
to split the report into 2 sections, the first one blaming it on the CIA, and the 2nd one won't come out until after the election.

I heard that on BBC, if I remember right. I guess I need to find a reference -- surprised nothing seems to be on DU about it.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:23 AM
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14. I marched... I'm not proud of my party
GOP lite is better than GOP. A vote for peace activist David Cobb (G) is a vote for w.ar, right?

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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:29 AM
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15. I marched in DC, NYC and Philadelphia
with hundreds of thousands of others all who knew they were lying.

There are people who like war, they like the thought that our boys are over there kicking ass. They like the chest thumping and strutting. They'll never wake up but based on the F9/11 numbers many have and they're pissed.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:50 AM
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17. I did.
I joined a group on 2/15. I joined a candlelight vigil. And I joined those standing on busy intersections with protest signs. In my defense-dependent, conservative fundamentalist area, that meant being screamed at, having things thrown at me, etc.; and it meant a schism between erstwhile friends and neighbors that still exists today. It happened when supposed "friends" called me a "Hussein-hugger."

It was crystal clear to me, and to many, from the beginning.

To me, the worst thing about the illegitimate one term of GWB has been the way too many democrats went along with him.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:57 AM
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18. I marched in Milwaukee and held signs in Wauwatosa
I went to candle light vigils for peace.

Organized a forum with a foriegn policy expert from a local University at church to discuss war, oil and Bush.

Letters to the editor, a blog, lots of reading....talking to people. Challenging them to see the truth.

Keeping the pressure on is draining.

Someday I hope it will be worth it.





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