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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:07 AM
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"steps need to be taken to secure the election"
"We are reviewing the issue to determine what steps need to be taken to secure the election," says Brian Roehrkasse, a Homeland spokesman. (MSNBC/Newsweek).

That reminds of the infamous Vietnam war quote "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." (unnamed U.S. officer). That might be a bad omen. To cancel the elections to save democracy, this is really Orwell double speak.

But the legislative actions like the Patriot Act take exactly this route, they cut down democratic rights to "save democracy" and freedom. It is so utterly grotesque and sad that the media and the broad public seem to accept this point of view.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:09 AM
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1. Liberate Iraq by bombing it and killing civilians
seems straight forward to me
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:48 AM
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17. That note from Condi in your sig. . .

Did the "Let Freedom REIGN" bit bother you like it did me? "Let Freedom RING" is the correct wording. Replacing 'ring' with 'reign' changes the meaning ever so subtly and I don't trust those who talk about reigns!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:23 AM
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19. How can freedom reign? Just like everything else Bush says..
It makes no fucking sense!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:34 PM
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20. Well, there's THAT, of course.

:7
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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:17 AM
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2. What the quote should really read:
"We are reviewing the issue to determine what steps need to be taken to secure the election...for Bush."
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:44 AM
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11. One of the most amazing things to me about this regime is that
they so frequently tell us exactly what to expect from them as they remove our freedoms, yet the media and even us go to great lengths to explain away what they so obviously said.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:18 AM
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3. The criminal in chief
already knows without a doubt, if the election goes on, he loses. They are desperate to do any thing to avoid a fair election again.
I wouldn't put it past them to invite a terrorist attack. As they already have done just that. To announce that we might postpone the election just put a giant target on America. Every terrorist in the world has their eye on the prize. To disrupt the American Election, The terrorist prize to die for.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:25 AM
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5. I half-expect him to use the "Bring It On" line again.
It worked so splendidly the first time.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:20 AM
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4. This will be America's darkest hour
if Bu$h and Co are allowed to get away with their madness.

The right to vote in a fair and free election is our most important right in the USA. I don't think Americans will stand for it, if Bu$h tries to deny us this right. Despite what the corporate owned press says, the majority of Americans no longer support this cabal and we are ready to throw the bums out.






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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:26 AM
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6. "Americans no longer support this cabal"
... which is why they have to cancel the election.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:10 AM
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18. "we are ready to throw the bums out". Indeed? How?
That sounds like you are planning a revolution?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:36 AM
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7. Maybe they're gonna run the election like they do in
corporations--the "board" will vote your proxies for you.
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uptown ruler Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:37 AM
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8. the admin who cried wolf..
how many terra threat levels have we been through?


Spreading The Word
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:39 AM
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9. Contact your congresscritters
I have.
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:41 AM
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10. TerrorWatch box in Newsweek/MSNBC article includes:
TERROR WATCH

• More Distortions From Michael Moore

Some of the main points in ‘Fahrenheit 9/11’ really aren’t very fair at all

• Terror Watch: The World’s Most Dangerous Terrorist

Who is Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi? And why are so many governments scared to death of him?

Looks like we're supposed to equate Michael Moore to al-Zarqawi and Terrorism.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:08 AM
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12. "Some of the main points in ‘Fahrenheit 9/11’ aren’t very fair"
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 08:08 AM by gandalf
Yes, they saw it too! Moore accepts the "Saudi Arabia was behind the attacks"-idea too quickly and thus supports the main outlines of the official version of 9/11.

Besides, MSNBC forgot to include the link to this article: Who is Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi? by Michel Chossudovsky.
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Aries Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:14 AM
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13. Some related history from "The Atlantic"
Found on http://digbysblog.blogspot.com:


The Atlantic Monthly | March 2004

The Armageddon Plan

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2004/03/mann.htm

During the Reagan era Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were key players in a clandestine program designed to set aside the legal lines of succession and immediately install a new "President" in the event that a nuclear attack killed the country's leaders. The program helps explain the behavior of the Bush Administration on and after 9/11.

by James Mann

.....

At least once a year during the 1980s Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld vanished. Cheney was working diligently on Capitol Hill, as a congressman rising through the ranks of the Republican leadership. Rumsfeld, who had served as Gerald Ford's Secretary of Defense, was a hard-driving business executive in the Chicago area—where, as the head of G. D. Searle & Co., he dedicated time and energy to the success of such commercial products as Nutra-Sweet, Equal, and Metamucil. Yet for periods of three or four days at a time no one in Congress knew where Cheney was, nor could anyone at Searle locate Rumsfeld. Even their wives were in the dark; they were handed only a mysterious Washington phone number to use in case of emergency.

After leaving their day jobs Cheney and Rumsfeld usually made their way to Andrews Air Force Base, outside Washington. From there, in the middle of the night, each man—joined by a team of forty to sixty federal officials and one member of Ronald Reagan's Cabinet—slipped away to some remote location in the United States, such as a disused military base or an underground bunker. A convoy of lead-lined trucks carrying sophisticated communications equipment and other gear would head to each of the locations.

Rumsfeld and Cheney were principal actors in one of the most highly classified programs of the Reagan Administration. Under it U.S. officials furtively carried out detailed planning exercises for keeping the federal government running during and after a nuclear war with the Soviet Union. The program called for setting aside the legal rules for presidential succession in some circumstances, in favor of a secret procedure for putting in place a new "President" and his staff. The idea was to concentrate on speed, to preserve "continuity of government," and to avoid cumbersome procedures; the speaker of the House, the president pro tempore of the Senate, and the rest of Congress would play a greatly diminished role.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:25 AM
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16. "avoid cumbersome procedures"
That is (inadvertently ?) very revealing.

Yes, that is one of the problems with a democracies, they are so cumbersome and slow in decision making.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:18 AM
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14. bullshit !
if they were concerned about the security of elections they had 3 years to implement something that was safe from fraud---instead we have diebold machines. Another day another lie.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:23 AM
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15. That is right
and shows how sincere they are -- and the media, that lets them get away.
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