What do you think would happen if martial law were declared?

[YellowRubberDuckie]

We were just discussing this. On a serious note, explain what you think will happen in this country/to this coutry if Bush decides to declare martial law.
Duckie

[still_one]

1. They have already declared marital law, martial law is

just around the courner

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[theivoryqueen]

4. I think he/she was referring to the FMA

[YellowRubberDuckie]

6. OK...I wasn't thinking about that.

[asthmaticeog]

2. I think what would happen is...

...I'd stay put in my damn house so as not to get shot, hope they weren't going around searching peoples' bookshelves, and curse my shit luck for having been born into such times.

[theivoryqueen]

5. I would camp out in the bushes at Jackie Chans'

[htuttle]

7. I'd walk out onto my street and start talking with my neighbors...

...and see what they want to do. Then we'd send a representitive to the next neighborhood, and see what they wanted to do, and so on until we could call a larger meeting of all the representitives, and see what we all wanted to do about it.

Then we'd do it.

Then again, I live in Madison, and we do everything that way here. :)

[theboss]

46. I'd move back home to West Virginia

Where there are about $2 Million heavily armed friends have mine with an extreme distaste for direct governmental authority. I imagine things would be pretty much the same there.

[AlCzervik]

8. I think thats the plan if he postpones the election

because people will take to the streets is huge numbers so he'll impose martial law. I think it would be crazy and dangerous, just like Jr..

[gpandas]

9. how can i find what martial law...

as defined by those who would impose it, would mean.

[serryjw]

43. Martial Law........

With a stroke of a pen from Bushit.....Martial Law is declared...FEMA takes over the country...The Constitution is suspended, Congress is bypassed!. ALL areas of our lives are now controlled by FEMA from banking ,transportation, food allocation to employment....EVERYTHING.......
The fun part of Martial law is it exists for AT LEAST 6 months and there is NOTHING anyone can do about it.THERE is NOTHING written into Martial Law on how to GIVE THE COUNTRY BACK TO THE PEOPLE!
If this ever happened....IT would be ALL OVER>....It would make the last civil war look like a picnic......We have alot more guns in this country now.
Seriously....pray it never comes to this......OR

[gpandas]

45. thanks for the reply n/t

[Mandate My Ass]

10. They'll never declare such a drastic thing

but they will enact it with a name such as "defending true red-blooded patriotic heroes against liberal leftist blame-America-first terrorist sympathizers" law and it will be immensely popular.

[ibegurpard]

11. Depends

Would it interfere with the Super Bowl? The "Survivor" finale?

[RC]

12. How'd they gonna impose it with the military

spread thin across the world now? This is a big country.
If they pull the troops home, They would lose their control of other peoples countries. Can't be having that either.
throw the criminals in prison and ship them to the Netherlands.
With some luck, we could see peace in our lifetimes. Clinton almost did it.

[DemBones DemBones]

15. Police and private troops (contractors, mercenaries) nt

[RC]

16. CIVIL WAR!

If they try that. Bet on it.

[taxidriver]

26. there are something like 400,000 troops stateside at various bases.

that plus reserves plus freeprs is more than enough.

[charlyvi]

31. Isn't there some sort of law

stating that military troops cannot put down the citizenry on American soil--or is that just tradition? I know the National Guard helps with national disasters, riots, etc, but I seem to recall someone saying that actual army, navy, marine, air force troops have never been used against American citizens on American soil. Someone please help on this.

[htuttle]

37. Yes, it's known as the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878

I think Bush got rid of it.

:shrug:

[Walt Starr]

39. Nope, it's still out there

hasn't been repealed. It's more or less been ignored, but not repealed.

[charlyvi]

42. Thanks

I couldn't remember if it was an actual law or what. Makes me feel better about this whole friggin' scenario.

[Zen]

13. Yeah!! Paid vacation!!

OK, just joking. Hope the internet would still be up to get things organized.

[TrustingDog]

21. The net would Have to go...

It wouldn't be difficult for the feds to close down the net. There's only about 6000 ISPs in the US, if i'm not mistaken .... if you look at an ISP like a fan rake - they have vays of choking it off before the spray.

If anyone has info/link on this, please post. New regulations allow the FBI (?) to do this. I'm not scarmongering, I KNOW I read this.

[Jose Diablo]

24. Shutting down the net will shut down commerce as well

Shut down commerce then there goes the tax money. No, shutting down the net is not a viable tactic for Bu$h. Of course, they could shut-down certain 'pinko' sites. But this would not stop internet communication, it would just go to off-shore ISP sites. You can bet the geeks would have something to say about trying to cheney the 'net.

I doubt Cheney/Bu$h, Neocons or the PNAC groups would survive the backlash from martial law. Nor would the mercs.

I have doubts that local/state police would honor the declaration of martial law. Probably not even the normal military.

[Tripper11]

14. I'd take my family and run for the border.....

I'm the Canadian half of an American/Canadian marriage. We stay here for some personal reasons right now, but if the U.S. goes any further down the rabbit hole, we will take what we can and head for Vancouver.
To be frank though, I really don't think it will happen. Even with the "election postponement" talk I think Kerry/Edwards is going to kick some serious Shrub/Cheney ass and all things will eventually get back to normal.
Jobs will come back, the economy will grow, peoples dispositions will improve, RW talkers will be so happy wallowing in the misery that is a real government, but making shit loads of money again, foreign countries will re-establishing good relations with the U.S.
Optimistic you say? After 4 years of the worlds leading class pack of the most narrow sighted, bigotted, imbecilic, lying pack of thieves to ever take office, ya gotta be!

[AndyTiedye]

17. He Couldn't Use the National Guard, Might Use Fundie Militias as Enforcers

The blatant pandering to the hard right suggest that he might turn loose the
fundie christian militas instead. They would all side with Bush* if he lets them
be the new Taliban.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

20. Dude, those militias are just waiting for martial law to be declared...

So they cna get out those weapons and fight. They are staunch supporters of the constitution. And they don't like what's going on right now.
Duckie

[Jose Diablo]

27. Breaker one-nine...

this here is pigpen...got yer ears on Duck?
:toast:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

38. That's hilarious...

And I love your SN.
Duckie

[Jose Diablo]

41. No no..not SN

HANDLE..its a handle. Gonna have to relearn radio talk.
B-)

[qwertyMike]

18. I'd move FROM Canada

to the US

Lotsa relatives there.

[tjwash]

19. The USA is too big to control with martial law.

There are just too many square miles to account for, too much diversity in the different states, and the population is very well armed to the teeth.

Worst case scenario, what I can see happening is the different state governments taking control, and eventually the US splits into several countries, IE the old Soviet Union.

[taxidriver]

28. that almost sounds intriguingly cool

[kodi]

36. i was thinking more like Yugoslavia as it broke up in violence

but, if it happens, and it may take a week a month or a year, but i think there will be open, armed insurrection that even the army, air force, and marines could not stop quickly....there are over 200,000,000 firearms in the hands of the people. i would expect that police stations across America quickly would come under attack.

water supplies would be poisoned, railroad lines and manufacturing factories sabotaged, seaports burned, the power grid would go down pretty quickly, interstate highways would resemble something out of the film mad max, and America's enemies would have the green light to do whatever they wanted to do with the US having to deal with its internal chaos.

modern life crawls upon the razor's edge. a disruption in it like martial law would set things in motion such that no one can conceive of what would come next.

if it happens may george w bush burn in eternal hellfire for bringing it about and his name reside along with hitler and stalin in the pantheon of human garbage.

[leftofthedial]

22. mostly acquiescence

with a few pockets of insurrection.

I think the soldiers in Iraq would rebel at this though. To the extent that any of them believe in what they are doing, they cling to the deceit that they are fighting to preserve our freedoms.

[AP]

23. If fast food restaurants stayed open and ESPN stayed on the air, nobody

would care.

Bread a circus.

And then America would crumble to the ground -- easy economic prey for committed democracies abroad.

Fascism is just a terrible economic model.

[taxidriver]

25. civil war. nt

[bo44]

29. How many gun owners are their?

You want to wake up the brain deads? Tell them they cannot go to bingo, softball, clubin', fishing, hunting, and whatever else that keeps them from paying attention to the fukkks in the White House.

[Jose Diablo]

32. I am making a guess

But I would put the number of gun owners at better than 75 million with a total of maybe 150 million weapons. But this is only a guess.

[bo44]

33. That is why martial would get shoved up bunnypants' ass

It would really be the enactment of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" consequence and unite folks.

[Jose Diablo]

35. Yep..Bu$h..the great uniter..LOL

but not in the sense that he wanted.

[theboss]

47. About 50 million gun-owners and 200 million guns

That's a rough estimate from a few sources. It's hard to say exactly how many unaccounted for weapons there are (G. Gordon Liddy's house alone may double that number).

[Walt Starr]

30. Declaration of Martial Law suspends the constitution

What you end up with is a military dictatorship.

What it would result in is civil war.

[Rex]

34. People will just watch more reality T.V. shows and get fatter.

Those that jog in the park will need "twilight" permits. Protesting will be allowed but the news media will call us terrorist sympathizers, the BFEE will marvel at how lazy and stupid (complacent) Joe Six-pack has gotten, and start planning on how to totally silence all dissent over the airwaves.

EDIT - We will come to love the Party and Big Brother.

[Aunt Anti-bush]

40. Wal-Mart would sell out

all of thier duct tape and plastic sheeting.

[Lori Price CLG]

44. Arming the Left: Is the time now?

Arming the Left: Is the time now? --by Charles Southwell "As long as we pose no REAL threat to the powers-that-be, to what is shaping up into a dictatorship, we will continue to be ignored. Right now, we are ignored because we present no organized power to fight this onslaught of anti-democratic, totalitarian government that we are up against... "

http://www.legitgov.org/essay_southwell_arming_the_left_is_the_time_now_102203.html

Lori Price

[Q]

48. Guns are NEVER THE ANSWER...

...unless you're hunting for food.

- Martial law actually comes in two stages:

1. State of national emergency

2. Martial law

- The US (Bush*) has already declared a 'national emergency'. This gives Bush* many of the (war) powers he's assuming without the advice or consent of congress.

- When in a state of emergency...martial law is just a terrorist act away from being implemented.