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Mon Jul-12-04 07:55 PM
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Wonder if we'll actually have to fight for our rights? |
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Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 08:17 PM by nu_duer
If these un-American bastards decide to declare and enforce no voting until they say, and there are the likely riots - like none ever seen, will there be confrontations? Will the regime turn the military on its own people? Will we fight back? Will our freedom ride on the outcome?
I'm in disbelief at this situation.
What are the possible outcomes of such an effort by these greedy and destructive traitors?
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Mon Jul-12-04 07:57 PM
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1. What military? They're all "over there"... |
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To be serious, I think the majority of Americans have become too complacent to fight for anything. We'll probably just all go along with it.
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:04 PM
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5. Or they have "riot police" on stand by |
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I don't know, tho, about that. If there is a public outcry over our most basic of constitutionally guaranteed rights being subverted, I don't think the police or military would enforce hostile action against their neighbors.
This is surreal.
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:06 PM
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7. I was a police dispatcher for 3 years. The police would enforce action |
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if they were told to. Neighbors or not, there's still a strong "us against them" mentality in law enforcement. They'd do what they were told to do, I think.
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Mon Jul-12-04 07:57 PM
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but I bet most people will just watch the latest reality TV show and wait for someone to tell them they if and when they can vote.:shrug:
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Mon Jul-12-04 07:59 PM
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You do have to fight for your right to PAAARRTY!!
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:01 PM
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4. I think it will take time for that.... |
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if they enable the justice department to have the power to cancel the elections, which is in essence what it would take to postpone them minus the presumed later reinstitution of a democracy here.
But if it does happen, let us all hope and pray that there is a little more organization behind any mass movement against the government than just "riots".
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:04 PM
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6. Under Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the constitution |
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that would require an act of Congress.
Besides, under Title 3, Chapter 1, Section 2 of the U.S. Code, provision is already made for the states to determine how to handle such a situation. There's no need for a constitutional amendment, a new law, or anything. It's already covered.
They're showing themselves for the delusional paranoid freaks they are floating this trial balloon.
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:07 PM
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8. But Congress is controlled by the same mutant freaks as the WH |
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I put little stock in Congress-critters standing up for us, the commoner, and telling Dubya to F-off. Matter of fact, I expect them to cheer him on as he burns down the Capitol building with gasoline.
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:09 PM
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9. The Senate can stop any such act easily |
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We don't even need all of the Dems to participate.
It's called a filibuster.
It would never even make it to the floor for a vote.
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:25 PM
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14. I remember the last time Dems decided to filibuster |
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The Repukes got all miffed and started to look into ways around it. I wonder if they found any? Point is, I don't trust em.
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:12 PM
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11. Even with a "red alert?" And the "patriot" act? |
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I hope you are correct.
I think its likely these same people stole an election, conducted a war of conquest, and looted the treasury. The idea of this gang cancelling elections and using excessive force to quash dissent is not far fetched, I think.
I don't mean to sound gloom and doom, but I seem to be getting the sense that our nation may be in much graver danger than we have suspected. The consitution seems to be irrelevent.
Maybe I'm just paranoid.
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:18 PM
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13. IF they declare Martial Law, all bets are off |
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we will be engaged in another great civil war.
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Mon Jul-12-04 10:35 PM
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19. You sum up exactly the way I feel |
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Not paranoid, just concerned
Seeing that we are already under a State of National Emergency I would think he can do it with the stroke of a pen.
Perpetual war, Perpetual usurpation, Perpetual theft of Liberty is certainly something to be concerned about.
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:11 PM
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10. instead of a 3 corner hat |
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i'll have a riot helmet, and instead if a musket i will have a p-90
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Mon Jul-12-04 08:17 PM
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12. I'm actually in fear of the whole thing. |
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It is just too wicked and too frightening to believe. I keep thinking I must be dreaming. Why is no one in congress taking this issue up and fighting the Bush Administration? It is like our nation is letting itself get f**ked all over again.
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Mon Jul-12-04 10:05 PM
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15. Civil War is not really an option anymore |
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The populace is not well enough organized or armed to actually have a civil war. We are going to need massive protests along the lines of the civil rights protests of the 60's to stop Martial Law. I heard on Alex Jones(yeah I know, I know, but this was an interview with a marine so it may have some validity) that the Government is already doing psych evaluations on soldiers to see if they are prepared to shoot Americans who are um.. unwilling to give up their guns...
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Mon Jul-12-04 10:15 PM
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But, unfortunately, I am beginning to believe they are capable of anything. I wouldn't doubt that at this point they are doing that.
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Mon Jul-12-04 10:19 PM
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17. The question is how will we know |
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when the line has been crossed that makes that necessary? If every indication is telling you that we have descended into fascism and yet all your friends and neighbors go on about their business as if everything's just fine and the news continues to report about Britney Spears' latest marriage, how do you know you're not nuts? :shrug:
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Mon Jul-12-04 10:29 PM
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18. Its when they take away our vote |
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which is what defines our democracy
we know the line has been crossed when our voices, when the governtment of the people, by the people and for the people, has been effectively sabotaged.
I know this is the line because I've seen the look on my rw relatives' faces when I told them - this is the line.
I fear we are on the verge of breaking our country.
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Mon Jul-12-04 10:39 PM
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20. they have already taken away our vote |
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