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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:52 PM
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Department of Peace
We have always had a war department, why not a Peace Department. How do we move on this. No one (meaning the repub media) except for Dennis Kucinich is talking about this. I think maybe Howard Dean mentioned this., but no one talks about this.

Any help with this is welcome.

We need Dennis Kucinich to remain on the national stage and not shut out.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:56 PM
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1. so what would it do?
i never did get an answer to this from the dennis heads that i asked. how would this differ from the peace corp?
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CharlesGroce Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:03 PM
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2. Dept of Peace explained
It would seek to establish nonviolence as an organizing principle in our society.

In essence, it would study and remedy the very things in our society that cause or enable violence. It would help people from battered women to counseling people who commit violence.

It would seek to provide reasonable peaceful solutions to conflicts of violence (home and abroad I suppose).

Peace needs planning, and that's where the Department of Peace would (have) come in.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:09 PM
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4. It appears very little people are interested in this aspect..for whatever
reason, I don't know...

It seems there is only a few who see the Positive return in such an adventure... and the rest are of the notion Peace is impossible therefore not worth the effort.

Whatever it is... there seenms to be an impediment to the Process...
Pity...

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:04 PM
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3. THis was a lot more than kucinich backing this idea
Firstly, you're right:
We need Dennis Kucinich to remain on the national stage and not shut out.

That aside, the department of peace is the other half of the army
that builds up nations that have been decimated by a half century
of negative foreign policy. It could "invade" afganistan and in
coordination with its other half, "the army" do nation building.

We destroy nations, yet have no capacity to create and support them..
how ironic for a nation claiming to be progressive. Every nation
where we intervened over the past decades is a wreck today for the
lack of any serious approach towards nation building... it makes
all USA talk about supporting democracy a load of bollocks.

The department of peace could work with the state department to
support formal building of constitutional democracies, constitutions,
legal systems, systems of property rights, human rights, womens rights..

i can't believe anyone would say it is pointless... rather how sick
is spending the entire nation's goodwill to permanently shit on
another people... that is what we really stand for unless we can
back away from the police state towards something more civilized.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:21 PM
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5. Very well said Sweetheart
We are a country that spends a half a trillion dollars a year on defense contractors, but cannot support anything to help the rest of the develop themselves.

What about our schools? I lived in Bridgeport, CT for a couple years (spent 20 years there before getting totally disgusted by the attitude), and saw how the inner city schools are totally un-funded. 95% of the kids in my daughter's class were eligible for free lunches. I don't think you would see that in Greenwich, Westport, Darien, or Ridgefield Connecticut. In those communities, over 80% of the population benefited from *'s tax cuts. They are happy not to be supporting the schools of Bridgeport.

Until this country decides that it wants to really see that every child has the opportunity to advance, we are going to continue to see the decline of the "amurikan" country and the ideals that it stands for.

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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:29 PM
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6. What? No Washington Think Tanks?
Lobbying for a doctrine of peace?

Oh I forgot, no $$$$$$$ in peace
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 11:44 PM
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7. no money in peace . . .
until someone can figure a way to make peace as profitable as war, I don't think a Department of Peace would be all that effective . . . although I'd still support the idea 100% . . .
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