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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:15 AM
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Co worker: Michael Moore is a propagandist like Hitler's Leni Riefenstahl.
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 12:15 AM by Liberal_Guerilla
This so called progressive dumb ass I work with also said that she doesn't like Kerry because of how he looks. However she will vote for Edwards. THIS is how people vote. They don't care about ideas, just how you would look in bed. Sad.

Anyway, I told her that the difference between Moore and Leni is that Leni staged her movies and worked for the state. Michael Moore is not working for anyone and F9/11 was not staged. The dumb ass then said that Michael Moore is a propagandist because you can do all kinds of stuff with movies in editing. I shot back that the footage he has is the footage that other news outlets took during the timeline of the events.

The footage does not lie. Michael Moore is not making up things, he is just showing them to you as they happened. Something the Leni Riefenstahl news media will not show you. Also, she never even saw F/911, and I doubt that she saw any Moore film ever.

Man, I swear to god. Do people even know what the term liberal or progressive mean?

On a side note: Here in Portland Oregon, I rarely if ever see a Bush/Dick sticker on any car or any kind of phony patriotic crap on cars or lawns. It reminds me of Germany after the fall, Where you couldn't find one person who supported or voted for Hitler.

However, there are plenty of Kerry for Prez stickers flying around.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:19 AM
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1. It's ok. I recently got into a flame war with somebody on another board
They insisted that all the links and stories and things that other posters and I kept dragging over were all made-up lies. You know, things like the Congressional Record, transcripts of W's speeches, etc.

Just made-up liberal lies.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:23 AM
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2. It's amazing.
It's like the evil left has their hand up Bush's butt forcing him to do these evil things he does. What power the corporate/Saudi media has on these people is simply unerving.
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:23 AM
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3. Did your co-worker even see the film?
Probably not...but somehow people sure have lots of opinions!
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:24 AM
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4. Not true
There were loyal fascists in post-war Germany for years, even after seeing their nation driven to its knees at the hands of Hitler.

Leni remianed an unapologetic Nazi until her death, if I recall.

It's eerily similar to seeing loyal Repugs swearing up and down that Bush is the man for the job, no matter what happens. Methinks that wouldn't change even if our nation were bombed flat, just like Germany was. The parallels between the two political climates are more than a little disturbing.

Anywho, good for you for standing toe-to-toe with your Bush apologist co-worker.

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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:24 AM
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5. Did Moore ADMIT F9/11 was NOT a documentary ?
This seems to be a parrot wingnut talking point, but I have never seen it documented.

Did he ever say it was NOT a documentary ?

Thanks
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:26 AM
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7. It fits the definition
2 entries found for documentary.
To select an entry, click on it.
documentary<1,adjective>documentary<2,noun>

Main Entry: 1doc·u·men·ta·ry
Pronunciation: "dä-ky&-'men-t&-rE, -'men-trE
Function: adjective
1 : being or consisting of documents : contained or certified in writing <documentary evidence>
2 : of, relating to, or employing documentation in literature or art; broadly : FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE <a documentary film of the war>
- doc·u·men·tar·i·ly /-m&n-'ter-&-lE, -"men-/ adverb
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:33 AM
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11. I think he compared it to an Op-Ed /eom
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:25 AM
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6. She's a liar
about being a progressive. And I bet she hasn't seen the movie. You think you're saddled with a dumbass! I'm working with a woman who calls herself a democrat but she loves the chimp, hates Kerry and Edwards and is trying to get the local school board to allow recruiting on high school campuses because one of her kids is a marine. She's a liar too.

Gyre
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:28 AM
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9. That is my assumptions as well.
However, Her being Aftrican American, She is quite out spoken on things like civil rights and racism. It seems to me that with politics, people are only interested in their issues, not society as a whole.

Liiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaahhhhhh,
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Ivan Zero Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:27 AM
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8. Triumph Of The Swill
I'd wager that most people making this ridiculous comparison between Moore and Riefenstahl have not seen F911 or Triumph Of The Will.

It sucks when Freeper memes like this catch on with the public.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:30 AM
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10. Bill O'Reilly made that comparison (nt)
nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:39 AM
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12. Someone who votes because a candidate might look good in bed
needs a frontal lobotomy... after voting for Kerry.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:31 AM
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13. I'm voting for Kerry/Edwards....and I wouldn't kick Edwards out of bed...
...he's got my vote for the "Babe" effect... :)

Lobotomies are what happened to the folks voting for Bu$h and FUCheney...I mean, look at those guys....The thought of either one of them makes me cringe....George probably has a little weenie and FUCheney can't see his under his belly and probably has hair all over his body, only not on his head....Smirky and Snarly are scary....

Edwards....sigh....I'd take him home....

Oi Swamp Rodent! :hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:51 AM
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14. Ha ha!
Ok, so Edwards also happens to be a babe magnet as well as a swell guy... Honestly, I am VERY happy about this. It could mean a lot of Log Cabin votes going to Edwards.

Ack! I visualized your description of Shrub with a lil' stub, and Dick with more hair on his prick.

If Edwards wins, we'll ALL want to take him home!

:pals:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:23 AM
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15. I forgot the impact that Edwards would have on the Log Cabin Votes...
...I was too busy keeping him for myself....

Ugh...the further description you gave of Shrub and Dick just made me sick... just when I thought I couldn't be more nauseated by them...

Thanks as always Swamp Rodent for the visuals :)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:35 AM
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16. I've been writing "visually" a lot lately... some folks laugh and others
stay away from me. I wonder why? Go to the lounge where I kicked this thread:

"Your Earthly Remains (Poll)"
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