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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:22 AM
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And I thought possibly delaying the election was Tin Foil material.....
Well..big story yesterday morning on AM radio about the em..."possibitlity". Surfing the channels last night and another story on FOX. This is fucking unbelievable that this group of thugs could now stop a Presidential election by LIHOPing another disaster.

Then with a teary eyed Chimp standing at the scene of the carnage we quickly hold the election. Gawd....

David
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:32 AM
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1. See!?
I kept telling people this was gonna happen!
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:56 AM
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9. Even before 9/11 I felt this was a real possibility
I mean, if you saw and understood what happened during the 2000 election, why would something like this be so unthinkable?

Something I wrote in April, 2001 hinting at my suspicions:

http://www.bartcop.com/coupsp.htm
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:35 AM
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2. Sure they will look into it
Send up a few trial balloons. But what the anti-tinfoilers are trying to say is there is no way the population will sit still for this. Or at least we hope so. What hopefully will be seen is that the people will react strongly to these trial balloons and reject them.
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:40 AM
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3. Wish I could feel as strongly about the
general population getting up in arms about a cancellation. I see the majority being so afraid that they'll just bumble right along with whatever * decides is beest for America.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:41 AM
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4. You are assuming the population is going to have a choice...
...or even care/remember 20 minutes after teh news breaks. Most of them don't vote anyway, so it won't be all that important to them.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:53 AM
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7. Wish I had as much faith in the Sheeple as you do...
The ones who are even aware that they've just been handed a Fascist coup won't do anything about it once FAUX starts parading bare titties across the screen and Wally-World announces an "Everything is FREE!" sales event.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:12 AM
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10. Yeah, but I didn't think they'd sit still for SCOTUS choosing our prez
either. I'm not sure I trust "the people" at the moment.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:26 AM
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14. The people sat still for the stealing of the 2000 election,
propping up the Taliban with $343 million of the taxpayer's money, Being attacked by Saudi Arabians so turning around and attacking Afghanistan, an illegal invasion of Iraq, the stripping of the right to a fair trial, being held in suspicion because of the books we read, and a host of other atrocities.

Why the fuck wouldn't the public sit still for the instillment of a military dictatorship?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 09:55 AM
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20. You kidding me? Look at what this population has sat still on
People aren't even aware of these trial balloons. There is no response.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:46 AM
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5. Maybe you should go to AAR's audio files later in the day and
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 07:47 AM by LittleApple81
listen to the guy being interviewed (morning sedition). This is the guy:

Newsweek said the discussions about whether the November 2 election could be postponed started with a recent letter to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge from DeForest Soaries Jr., chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. The commission was set up after the disputed 2000 presidential vote to help states deal with logistical problems in their elections.

Soaries, who was appointed by President Bush, is a former New Jersey secretary of state and senior pastor of the 7,000-member First Baptist Church of Lincoln Gardens in Somerset.

Newsweek reported that Soaries expressed concern that no federal agency had the authority to postpone an election and asked Ridge to ask Congress to give his commission such power.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/election.day.delay/index.html
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He essentially said he has not requested instructions to CANCEL or postpone elections nationwide. He wants the nation to be prepared as to what to do if a state, city, etc. cannot hold the election as scheduled.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:28 AM
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15. But the law already exists to cover this
Under Title 3, Chapter 1, Section 2 of the U.S. Code, it's up to the state legislature in the affected area. There is no federal authority outside of Congress and there should be no federal authority outside of Congress in this issue.

It's a power grab. Plain and simple. They want the power to be able to steal a second election.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 09:36 AM
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19. This law won't mean diddly if
congress gives them the power to postpone elections. We will then have a dictatorship. Bush has war powers, the power to declare martial law and with this, the power to end elections. Go to the Plame indictment thread 6 and help us with a letter writing campaign to stop it.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:49 AM
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6. Well, with people like Bev Harris...
making a stink about Diebold/electronic voting, they may need more time to rig it. If they even TRY it, we should go Bolshevik on their asses.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:56 AM
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8. We may have to add a new category - EIHOP
Encourage it to happen on purpose
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:15 AM
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11. good question
C-Span this morning had a caller who asked something like this.
The PDB of aug 6 gave bush warnings..and he did nothing.....but the week Kerry picks Edwards.the bush gang is talking about postponing the elections.........."I want to know what the difference is in these two different PDB's.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:30 AM
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16. Oh, EXCELLENT
Just excellent.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:19 AM
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12. Another fear tactic by the Bushies, and they argue that this is a
safer America because of the Iraq war.Then the example the assholes give is "we don't want to happen to us what happened in Spain".Well what happened in Spain is because their troops were in Iraq as our allies.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:23 AM
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13. Watch the film 'Unprecedented' if you don't think this can happen...
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 08:24 AM by Q
...again. The people (and Democrats) really screwed up in 2000 when they allowed the person NOT CHOSEN by the people to take office. It WAS unprecedented in history.

- Simply 'postponing' an election would mean nothing to these guys...and Americans will happily accept as 'necessary' in a 'time of war'.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:46 AM
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18. The first coup d'etat is always the hardest.
It's a hard thing to say, but the majority of Americans have sat on their hands for too much for too long. And their lethargy didn't start in 2000. For decades, they've had the evidence that the most progressive leaders America has raised up have been slain by their own government. Hell, in 1999, a court ruled that government agencies had conspired in the murder of Dr King. And what's been done about it?

Thanks, in large part, to the Mighty Wurlitzer of National Security and the narcotizing effect of junk culture, not a goddamn thing.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:30 AM
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17. You haven't heard? The terrorists won!
How can this country that prides itself on the idea that terror won't dictate how we live our lives even consider this latest administration crap? And don't be swayed by the bull coming out that "we just want guidance if we need to cancel the election". Trust me. If something happened, canceling an election to a later date ain't no insurmountable problem. It's called re-scheduling.
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