Condi's response to "postponing the elections"

[Granite]

Apparently, the administration doesn't like the response that it has gotten on this, because they are sending out Condi, their friendly face, to http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040713/ap_on_el_pr/election_terrorism_3">address it:

Rice said the Bush administration, while concerned about the impact of terrorism, is not thinking of postponing the elections.

"We've had elections in this country when we were at war, even when we were in civil war. And we should have the elections on time. That's the view of the president, that's the view of the administration," Rice told CNN on Monday.

Remember, this is Condi talking, so taking her statements at face value doesn't go far enough. For example - there are a lot of things I SHOULD do. I SHOULD have worked out this morning. I SHOULD have started work earlier than I did. I SHOULD have taken the dog for a walk. Did I do any of those things? No. Other stuff came up, and what I SHOULD have done was trumped by what I ACTUALLY DID.

Of course we SHOULD have elections on time. But that is a far cry from saying unequivocably that we WILL have elections on time, or that we MUST have elections on time.

One other thing - the idea of cancelling the election is out there. It can't be taken back, and while many people are appalled by the idea that some are actually considering this, many others have been championing the merits of "contingency planning" in the event of a terrorist attack. The administration might not be thinking of postponing elections right now, but others close to them are. If conventional wisdom becomes that this isn't such a bad idea, the administration has created enough wiggle room to start considering it.

[Walt Starr]

1. SCREAM TO THEM!!! THERE IS ALREADY A PROVISION!!!!!!

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution grants authority over the time of choosing electors to the congress and the manner of choosing electors to the states!

Title 3, Chapter 1, Section 2 of the U.S. code provides for the instance when an election is held and electors cannot be chosen by giving authority to the STATE LEGISLATURES!!!!

Bushco is BLATANTLY attempting to USURP authority over our election from the Legislative branch of the federal and state governements!

[underpants]

2. I think they ran it up the flagpole to see if anyone would salute

No one did, in fact it freaked a lot of people out so they are trying to take it back down.

They do this sort of thing all the time and usually the story (or the way they tried to sell it) gets forgotten about.

[Sandpiper]

3. Bullshit Condi

Bushco was sending up a trial balloon. It didn't go over well so now they're trying to backpedal.

[kayell]

4. Right on schedule with the next step

Check this post by Devils Advocate NZ for a good timetable of what they are doing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1981262#1981336

[Granite]

7. Great post

I missed that one. Yep - gradualisation is definitely their strategy.

[lovedems]

5. The Bush administration have just given the terrorist an open invitation

to attack just before the elections. What kind of idiot do you have to be to say, "If they attack, we might have to cancel the election" hoping they won't attack? That is an open invitation to Bin Laden if you ask me. The media and RW hate radio are doing what they can to make sure that invitiation is heard. Give me a break, if they weren't planning on it before, I am sure they are now. They will get more bang for their buck if they think they can interfere with our democratic process. Wouldn't it be a win for the terrorists if we couldn't vote on November 2, 2004?

[Walt Starr]

8. It's "Bring 'em on" Part Deux!

Seriously, they WANT an attack so they can so that the only legal provision they have to act now is martial law!

[lovedems]

13. That is frightening.

Because you are right. If they can't win the legal way, they will murder thousands of innocent Americans with the hope they will stay in power.

Democracy is when the government fears the people. Tyranny is when the people fear the government. I can't speak for anyone else, but I live under tyranny. My government scares me. :scared:

[amber dog democrat]

18. As Stalin once said:

"you can't make an omlette with out murdering thousands of innocents people in the hopes of staying in power"

I don;t know what the Chimp would stop at - if he were not held in check.
- But they WANT you to be afraid. trust me on that one. It'd be better if you got angry instead.

[lovedems]

19. You are correct.

They want me afraid. I agree. I guess I should have stated that my fear lies only in the fact that "they" would be willing to kill thousands of innocent people to promote their own agenda. Make no mistake, I am angry as hell. But the fact that will stop at nothing to stay in power does scare me. I think that scares everyone.

[amber dog democrat]

22. They already ARE killing thousands of innocent people

It does not happen to be here in the US.

I think there will be a day of reckoning - and as I see the Chimp administration, its days are numbered. A lack of intelligence, coupled by unexpected things beyond its control will make all the difference. What we do know is this power hungry front man
chooses to persist in his folley. A lesser fool would admit his mistakes.

This war is militarliy un winnable. Its is going to be his undoing.

[lovedems]

23. Again, you are correct!

:)

I hope you are also correct that there will be a day of reckoning. I hope his own foolishness is his downfall.

[amber dog democrat]

24. well I can't be 100% sure of this, but ....

If I were to take the chess board, turn it around and try to play the game from the Bush side, I am at a loss to figure out what a winning strategy would be.

Even if he gets re elected, there is a point where we will reach ( or already have reached ) diminishing returns. Our prospects will be unacceptable no matter what they say or do. I would toss a coin to see if he would survive a second term -

My guess is that they would lose the House and Senate in the Mid Terms - and he would be in a political stalement if not forced to resign.

[NightOwwl]

9. They want Bush to win

because he's an incompetent boob who plays right into their hands. There is no more of a threat today then there was 6 months ago. I'm not saying Al Qeada isn't a danger, but I don't think the election changes anything.

[lovedems]

12. I say the terrorists have done awfully good under Bush's "leadership"

Bin Laden and his high commanders are still free. The Anthrax mailer is still free, terrorists recruitment and attacks are up. Of course they want Bush to win, how do we get the general public to realize that? My freeper type brother repeats the meme: The terrorists want Kerry to win. Well, the last time we had a democrat sitting in the oval office, the terrorists were caught and brought to justice and now sit in jail or are dead. (I am obviously referring to the Oklahoma city and World Trade Center bombs. International as well as home grown terrorists)

What worries me is the NOTION (I am not sure it would happen) that your dumb average Joe would rally around smirky *again* and vote for him despite a second tragedy on his watch. What I would consider a failure, YAJ might be scared shitless and not want to change leadership after a second attack.

I cannot predict what the voters of this country would do after another terror attack and it has me nervous.

[Granite]

14. Exactly

How many times have you heard people say that the US electorate would do the opposite of Spain after the Madrid attacks? Its becoming conventional wisdom that the Spanish electorate caved to terrorists - complete bunk, but its been repeated so often that its being taken as the truth.

Personally, I think just being in a place where we are still talking about AQ's ability to attack and cause such havoc that free elections would have to be postponed or cancelled PROVES that Bush's policies have not made us safer.

But what do we know? We're just Bush-hating liberals who blame America first.

[lovedems]

20. I know.

The question should be asked, "We are safer but terrorists will strike again, we might have to postpone the election". What is wrong with that statement? It is wrong on so many levels we could analyze it for days.

[7th_Sephiroth]

6. condi's thier FRIENDLY FACE?

i have seen friendlier faces on pit-bulls

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

10. Wait a minute, back up. You didn't take the dog for a walk this morning?

:evilgrin:

[Granite]

11. Oops

maybe I need to get off DU and get home ASAP! :)

[Drifter]

15. I say, do as we did with the Iraq handover ...

surprise them. Hold the elections right now. Lets get it on.

If the US postpones elections, haven't the terra-ists won (seeing as though that is what they intended to do in the first place) ?

Besides, postponing elections is the only way for AWOL to play pResident past Jan 05. And that is exactly what the terra-ist want.

With AWOL chimp in the whitehouse, they can operated unabated.

Cheers
Drifter

[jackofhearts]

16. Condi's response is merely another phase...

The plan to take the election by hook or crook is proceeding quite nicely. The public has been sufficiently "prepared" for the actions that will be taken any time now. We have Condi reassuring every one that they are not going to postpone election...at least for now.

Next phase is to ramp up the threat level a notch or 2. Assure the public that everything is under control but we must be vigilant...you know...watch what say and watch what you do. The conventions will do just fine for this phase. Some incited violence at the conventions will help also.

Next get more republican nazis starting to express concern about the fairness of the elections in these troubled times. Get FOX news to really begin the push...rush and sean join in.

Now an attack does not even have to happen (although it would be damn nice if one did...stand down homeland security) the threat level and fear of the public to go out and vote is excuse enough to make the big move...elections postponed until threat level is brought down. Or until the administration says so.

[tom_paine]

17. She lies. They cancel, we (COMMENT REDACTED BY ORDER OF OHS)

[DS1]

21. Chimpy's like a child PRAYING for a SNOW DAY to delay his midterm

only 'cuz he knows he's gonna get his ass handed to him.

Or like a child praying for a nuclear disaster so he doesn't have to face the new schoolyard enforcer at 3:00 sharp.