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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:08 AM
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Bush Administration Takes Steps To Cancel US Election..
Pay attention folks...some very scary shit here...

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jul2004/elec-j13_prn.shtml

Statement of the Socialist Equality Party
13 July 2004

The request by Bush administration officials for a detailed analysis of the legal steps that would be necessary to postpone the 2004 election represents an implicit threat to abrogate the US Constitution, dispense with democratic rights, and establish a dictatorship based on the military and the police. This is the desparate action of a deeply discredited and unpopular regime that fears not only electoral defeat, but an explosion of social and political unrest in the United States.
<snip>

The Socialist Equality Party rejects as a bald-faced lie the claim that preparations to delay the election are necessitated by the possibility of a terrorist attack. Just as the terrorist threat was invoked to justify the illegal invasion of Iraq, it is being used to legitamize extreme anti-democratic measures that have been part of the Bush administrations secret agenda since it took office after the successful theft of the 2000 election.
<snip>

The Bush administration also consists of desparate and dangerous men who are prepared to do ANYTHING to maintain their grip on power. To the extent that there does exist the danger of a terrorist episode prior to the November election, it's planners perpetrators are far more likely to be extreme right-wing provacateurs with connections to the Bush administration and various police and intelligence agencies than members of some secret Al Qaeda cell operating in the United States.
<snip>

Even if one were to accept the possibility that a terrorist incident might be staged by Al Qaeda, this would in no way justify the postponement of a national election, a decision for which there is no precedent in the 216 years since George Washington was elected to the presidency. National elections were held on schedule during World War I, World War II, and even during the Civil War, when combat was raging in a dozen states. Even in the War of 1812, when Washington D.C. was overrun by the British and the White House was burned down, there was no move by the government to suspend elections.

Much More...
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jul2004/elec-j13_prn.shtml

Personally, I hope and pray that the "It can't happen here" mindset doesn't take hold, as it did with the election in 2000.
We should all take our "Right to bear arms" very seriously I fear.
:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:12 AM
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1. CIVIL WAR
We will all take to the streets and fight them if this happens
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:16 AM
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2. I fear that is what it's gonna take...
or the military turning on these monsters!
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:31 AM
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Kick...
:kick: I hate kicking my own threads! :evilgrin:
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:31 AM
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3. Kick...
:kick: I hate kicking my own threads! :evilgrin:
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:31 AM
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4. I guess if they are planning
to postpone the election "just in case", we should probably start planning how to not let this happen "just in case". But how? If we took to the streets how many military and police could start shooting at their friends and family? Should we start protesting this idea/plan? It seems like things are going to get a lot uglier before they are going to get better. How do we fight these people?
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White Feather Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:36 AM
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7. If the repugs try to cancel the election
look for the internet to go down, so we can't organize.

Walt
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:28 PM
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15. Somebody in Congress needs to take up the mantle...
and let these Fascistic scumbags know that there will NOT be any level of tolerance for postponing or cancelling of the election. In other words, only something devaststing and paralyzing to the nation, something that would totally disrupt our complete way of life could be the only excuse. Anybody think these vampires have the stones to bring this nation to it's knees so we are forced to bow down to them? I don't!
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Literate Tar Heel Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:35 AM
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6. what military?
they're all in Iraq and Afghanistan ... not much they can do from there (maybe another reason BushCo. is trying to send as many of them over there as possible)
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:17 PM
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13. The elections went on in the second ww
The Civil war and every conflict in between. I will take to the street if they try it. There is no need. Elections should go on. Even NYC although they postponed it a day or two it went on.
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White Feather Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:34 AM
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5. President Lincoln said
that if the insurgents could make us postpone or forego a national election, they might fairly claim to have conquered and ruined us.

Can anyone think anything else -- after three years of failed policies?

Walt
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:37 AM
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8. Welcom to DU Walt
:hi: - So happy to have a Veteran for Peace here! Your post is spot on.
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:50 AM
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9. I don't think the election will
be cancelled. not for a minute.

BUT I do think that every possible scenario needs to be thought through. I just don't think that it would fly--and I don't think * would try.

Realistically.

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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:50 AM
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11. Welcome to DU!!!
:hi:

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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:12 PM
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12. thanks for the welcome
I like your siggie! Nice thought about the ledge!
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:50 AM
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10. The Plame-threads addicts
are suggesting that Bush will disappear with the elections or even before -- as far as I understand it.

And tomorrow, July 14, exactly one year after the Novak column, should be the day. Let's see...
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:06 PM
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19. I have followed those threads.
The July 14th date has been pushed back. The GJ requested time (2 weeks) until the end of July. It is my understanding that they will be hearing testimony from journalists at this juncture. I would have thought that the journalists would have been amongst the first questioned.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:21 PM
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14. Let's all take an objective look for a moment.
I've thought about this some in the last couple of days. We are dealing with an Administration that couldn't figure out how to get an oppressed nation on our side. These asshats simply don't know what they are doing. They are delusional and inept. ANYTHING that they do turns to shit inside of 15 minutes. Any attempted coup by these boneheads would have a similar shelf life. "Emperor Bush" would be a term of derision and amusement for the next thousand years.
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DarkHorse Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:54 PM
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17. Stay Calm
Stay calm. We need this contingency in place in case
anything like what happened in Spain, happens here.
The elections there were put off for only one week.
It's a common sense thing.

If this goes into effect, and if there
is a democrat in the White House ... when the next
elections take place in 2008 the Republicans will be
just as worried as everyone here seems to be.

A one week delay because of massive terrorist attack
is nothing big to worry about. It's just common sense.

I think both sides of this, Republicans and Democrats,
are a bit paranoid on this subject.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:59 PM
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18. The elections in spain were not delayed.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:17 PM
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21. not
these guys are killers plain and simple...we have a right to be paranoid with these people. They dont give a rats ass about us or the Constitution.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:12 PM
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20. I'm afraid this will turn on where a attack would happen
under these hypothetical situations.

With the election being this close, I can foresee the Republicans only taking a principled "The election must continue" stance if an attack happens in a state that a low turnout would only hurt their chance of winning the election, and the opposite stance should it be the other way.

I can only hope that the Democratic party and progressives in general wouldn't play that game.
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