ElementaryPenguin
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Tue Jul-13-04 01:23 PM
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A Republican who outranks Reagan says the elections MUST BE HELD - PERIOD! |
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Who is he? Abe Lincoln! Read EXACTLY what he had to say on the subject in 1864 - in the midst of the bloodiest war, biggest mess this country has ever been egaged in! Read it - and SPREAD the word! http://www.nps.gov/liho/writer/1864.htm
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Tue Jul-13-04 01:24 PM
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Any discussion of contingency plans or postponement plans for the election is dead wrong. The election MUST go on no matter what happens.
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Tue Jul-13-04 01:24 PM
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2. I think it's amazing how out self-professed superpatriots are so |
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willing to talk about cancelling elections.
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ElementaryPenguin
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Tue Jul-13-04 01:28 PM
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3. Will they listen to Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh... |
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or Abe Lincoln? Is that where we're at?
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Tue Jul-13-04 01:30 PM
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4. I think our forefathers were very aware that at some point in time |
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our country would be under assault to go back to a monarchy, therefore, they specifically designed our precious Constitution to prevent such assaults on democracy. Bush is the enemy of the United States of America, no doubt about it. He wants to change the fundamental aspects of being American, and most uneducated poor Americans don't get it.
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ElementaryPenguin
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Tue Jul-13-04 02:12 PM
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6. More and More ARE starting to GET IT, though! |
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While desperate BushCo's evil designs become even more transparent every day!
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Tue Jul-13-04 01:50 PM
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Will back ANY measure that extends their power.
'Ordinary Republicans' (like 'good Germans') will shrug their shoulders and say "whacha gonna do? there's a WAR on".
Nobody 'does' CIVICS anymore. The CONCEPTS are too hard when there's TV to watch and SUVs to drive.
Explain to these people that even with the Confederate guns 12 miles from DC Lincoln didn't cancel elections (and there was a decent chance he'd LOSE) and they'll tell you right to your face "things are different now cuz of 9/11".
What they WON'T tell you (but should) is "I don't give a SHIT what's happening anywhere in the world or here; I just want Republicans running everything and I don't CARE how they do it". At least they'd be honest in their anti-Americanism.
Bigby
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ElementaryPenguin
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Tue Jul-13-04 02:15 PM
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7. It's really fucking infuriating! |
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Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 02:15 PM by ElementaryPenguin
Hate to say it, but...do today's Americans even deserve America - as it was intended by our founding fathers? They no longer seem willing to lift a finger to preserve its Constitution!!!
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:05 AM
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10. I understand your outrage and sympathize with it, but even at that time |
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most Americans didn't lift a finger to support the Revolution, and a lot of the founding fathers were just as corrupt and venal as any modern Republican. It was a tiny percentage of committed individuals who made the difference (just as the current situation is a testament -- not that I approve of it by any means! -- to the organization and commitment of right-wing ideologues, plus they have a hell of a lot of money).
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Wed Jul-14-04 05:45 AM
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8. I believe the Bush Administration..................... |
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Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 05:49 AM by louis c
has seriously miscalculated the negative impact of this public suggestion to postpone or cancel the elections.
To those of us who distrust anything coming out of the mouths of any one in the Bush Government, we feel this is a cynical ploy to avoud certain defeat at the hands of the voters.
To those who are less inclined, it proves that we are not as safe from terrorist attack as this Administration has lead them to believe.
In either case, Bush losses.
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Wed Jul-14-04 07:56 AM
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9. YOU think he outranks Reagan, I think he outranks Reagan... but |
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I'm not so sure how many modern-day conservatives still believe he outranks Reagan. They probably view Old Able, when they think of him at all, as a heart-warming patriotic icon who was a simpler, more innocent product of a simpler, more innocent time -- an antiquity whose long-ago administration doesn't impact the daily lives of modern Americans in the same uplifting way as the universal prosperity, restored national pride, and defeat of Communism (which was evil not because it killed and enslaved human beings but because it took things away from rich people) that were Holy Reagan's great legacy to his beloved American people.
Then too there was that unfortunate minority rights issue that tarnishes Lincoln's reputation in some circles. One certainly can't impute such a blemish to The Great Communicator!
Sometimes on these "greatest president" surveys Lincoln and Washington don't even appear in the top 5 any more. But there's probably a perfectly simple reason for that (similar to the reason the thread of history here often terminates abruptly at about 1968).
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