American Community Survey by Ron Paul (big brother)

[midwayer]

Big Brother at it's finest!

None of Your Business!


by Rep. Ron Paul, MD



You may not have heard of the American Community Survey, but you will. The national census, which historically is taken every ten years, has expanded to quench the federal bureaucracy’s ever-growing thirst to govern every aspect of American life. The new survey, unlike the traditional census, is taken each and every year at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars. And it’s not brief. It contains 24 pages of intrusive questions concerning matters that simply are none of the government’s business, including your job, your income, your physical and emotional heath, your family status, your dwelling, and your intimate personal habits.

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$1000 fine for not taking the survey is what they are proposing!

[midwayer]

1. Link

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul192.html

[el_gato]

7. thanks for posting this midwayer

[midwayer]

2. That's $1,000 PER QUESTION! (eom)

[el_gato]

6. Yep they want to know everything about you and fine you if you disagree

It's bullshit

[MrBenchley]

3. Wow...Dr. No speaks!

Paul is as crazy as an outhouse rat...anti UN, anti birth control....pretty much as far right as anyone can get.

No wonder only the neoNazis at lewrockwell.com will print his gibberish...

[el_gato]

4. He's right all the way on this one

But he doesn't worship at the throne of big brother

Your petty insults are as stupid as they are hate filled.

But I guess you don't mind it when the government tells
you to bend over and spread 'em for inspection purposes.

[MrBenchley]

12. Jeeze, gato...

Paul is about the dumbest right winger in public life....

[el_gato]

13. You never post anything but pathetic juvenile insults

Was he dumb for opposing the Patriot Act?
Was he dumb for being opposed to giving bush a blank check to invade iraq?

Never mind, I know you'll only respond with hateful gibberish anyway.

[MrBenchley]

17. And if you want a primo idiot, Ron Paul's your boy....

that nobody else co-sponsors and that mercifully die a deserved death in committee.

He's opposed to reproductive choice; he's opposed to birth control; he's opposed to the United Nations; he's opposed to the anti-trust laws; he's opposed to all taxes; he's opposed to environmental protection laws, he's opposed to minimum wage laws; he's opposed to worker's rights laws, he's opposed to the church/state wall...but he IS in favor of grabbing the Panama Canal back from Panama.

Altogether a thoroughly ignorant and ugly piece of work. But he's a sincere ignorant and ugly piece of work.

[el_gato]

22. Cry me river bench

He is one of the few people in congress to actually stand up
to bush. He voted against the pat act and the blank check for war.
But you have never been opposed to the absolute power grab by the
feds so your hatefilled rants are not surprise here.

[MrBenchley]

27. Too too funny, gato...

[formernaderite]

15. He's a Libertarian....

....through and through....

[midwayer]

5. Paul says it is intrusive

and disagrees with it

??? I have always found mostly liberal thought at Lew Rockwell

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. He's a libertarian type. Yes to free market, yes to civil rights

[el_gato]

9. He's one of the few people in congress who acts on his beliefs

rather than being a lock-step servant of the party apparatus.

He was opposed to the iraq invasion as well as the Patriot act.

[Sub Atomic]

10. It is pretty intrusive.

I received one about a month ago.

It asks detailed questions about the employment status and wages for every person living within a household.

It asks far too much personal information.

I saw that they could try to sue me for failure to fill it out, but when something comes in the mail addressed to "resident", it's obviously not addressed to me.

I threw it in the trash when I saw the amount of detailed personal information they were asking for.

[midwayer]

11. Interesting

Was it from the US Census Dept?

From the article it sounds as if they are just now introducing it to Congress

[MrBenchley]

14. Paul thinks every damn thing is intrusive

He's opposed to birth control, the UN, and just about everything else around.

And lew rockwell is "liberal" the way Faux Noise is "fair and balanced"...

"The Ludwig von Mises Institute, founded in 1982 by Llewellyn Rockwell Jr. and still headed by him, is a major center promoting libertarian political theory and the Austrian School of free market economics, pioneered by the late economist Ludwig von Mises. It publishes seven journals, has printed more than 100 books, and offers scholarships, prizes, conferences and a major library at its Auburn, Ala., offices.
It also promotes a type of Darwinian view of society in which elites are seen as natural and any intervention by the government on behalf of social justice is destructive. The institute seems nostalgic for the days when, "because of selective mating, marriage, and the laws of civil and genetic inheritance, positions of natural authority likely to be passed on within a few noble families."
But the rule of these natural elites and intellectuals, writes institute scholar Hans-Hermann Hoppe, is being ruined by statist meddling such as "affirmative action and forced integration," which he said is "responsible for the almost complete destruction of private property rights, and the erosion of freedom of contract, association, and disassociation."
A key player in the institute for years was the late Murray Rothbard, who worked with Rockwell closely and co-edited a journal with him. The institute's Web site includes a cybershrine to Rothbard, a man who complained that the "Officially Oppressed" of American society (read, blacks, women and so on) were a "parasitic burden," forcing their "hapless Oppressors" to provide "an endless flow of benefits."
"The call of 'equality,'" he wrote, "is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human." Rothbard blamed much of what he disliked on meddling women. In the mid-1800s, a "legion of Yankee women" who were "not fettered by the responsibilities" of household work "imposed" voting rights for women on the nation. Later, Jewish women, after raising funds from "top Jewish financiers," agitated for child labor laws, Rothbard adds with evident disgust. The "dominant tradition" of all these activist women, he suggests, is lesbianism. "

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=106

"Since the late '90s, neo-Confederate historians, "heritage" advocates and hate groups have declared total war on what they call the "Lincoln myth." Firing away in books and articles and Web sites, they've been battling to transform Lincoln into a figure few history students would recognize: a racist dictator who trashed the Constitution and turned the U.S.A. into an imperialist welfare state.
"They've decided to make him into a kind of Stalin or Hitler," says historian George Ewert, who directs Alabama's Museum of Mobile. For proof, check out the bulging "King Lincoln" archive on the libertarian Web site LewRockwell.com (see also Ludwig von Mises Institute, in Into the Mainstream), where the headlines tell the story: "Heil, Abe," "Lincoln vs. Liberty," "Hitler Was a Lincolnite," "Lincoln: Slavery A-OK," and, for Lincoln's birthday, "Happy Dictator Day." "

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=52

[el_gato]

19. Nope, he just doesn't worship authority

and some people actually believe in the right to privacy

[MrBenchley]

20. Geeze, gato, he's crazier than an outhouse rat

and opposed to just about everything progressive...

[el_gato]

23. He is against the Iraq invasion and the Patriot Act

but you love the federal power grabs that are going on
today as well as the shredding of the constitution.
So I'm not surprised you hate someone who is actually standing
up for freedom. I feel sorry for you and your fetish
for power grabbing fascists.

[MrBenchley]

29. Against birth control, the UN, workers rights, the environment

Paul's a right wing idiot....

[Doctor Smith]

16. Nonsense. Ron Paul is not crazy, nor is he far right. You're 0 for 2.

[MrBenchley]

18. They don't get any further right...or crazier

than Ron Paul.

The ignorant sumbitch is opposed to birth control, environmental protection, workers rights....

The only saving grace he has, such as it is, is that he's such an unpleasant loony that not even the other right wing scumbags can stand him...so he rarely gets any co-sponsors for his idiotic bills and they all die a deserved death.

[el_gato]

21. Baseless name calling is the benchly stock in trade

nobody is buying it bench

You can go back to praying to big brother now.

He is one of the few people in congress that acts on his own conscious
rather than being a servant of power. Too bad you have nothing but
pathetic insults rather than something constructive to add to the discussion.

[el_gato]

24. They force you to turn over this private info and the sell it to Big Biz

it's a scam and anyone who thinks it's the governments business how many toilets you have is a fool.

[Romulus]

25. hee hee - you rock 'Gato!!!

:headbang:

[MrBenchley]

28. Gee, gato, I got a basis for pointing out what a loony Paul is...

but it's amazing what right wing crap some people will swallow....

[redqueen]

32. Well cite it then

You keep making all these assertions... well put up. If you set some actual bills he's authored backing your claims up you might get some people to at least admit that yeah he may be nuts but at least he helps expose some of this crap... as it's going you're being ignored because you're just running off at the mouth.

[MrBenchley]

36. Gee, I already showed what lewrockwell.com is about...

If you need to know what a screwloose Paul, is you could look at

H.CON.RES.4 : Expressing the sense of the Congress that the United States should not rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).

H.CON.RES.443 : Expressing the sense of the Congress that the United States should formally withdraw its membership from the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).

H.J.RES.15 : Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens.

H.J.RES.42 : Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to deny United States citizenship to individuals born in the United States to parents who are neither United States citizens nor persons who owe permanent allegiance to the United States.

H.R.153 : To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans (mostly by giving them access to machine guns and repealing the Brady Bill)...

H.R.612 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow individuals a credit against income tax for tuition and related expenses for public and nonpublic elementary and secondary education.

H.R.1146 : To end membership of the United States in the United Nations.

H.R.1545 : To prohibit Federal officials from paying any Federal funds to any individual or entity that performs partial-birth abortions.

H.R.1546 : To provide that the inferior courts of the United States do not have jurisdiction to hear abortion-related cases.

H.R.1548 : To prohibit any Federal official from expending any Federal funds for any population control or population planning program or any family planning activity.

H.R.2139 : To repeal the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.

H.R.2778 : To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and for other purposes.

H.R.3071 : To prohibit the provision of Federal funds to the housing-related government-sponsored enterprises and to remove certain competitive advantages granted under law to such enterprises.

H.AMDT.240 to H.R.1950 Amendment sought to prohibit funding for any United States contribution to the United Nations

That's just the current Congress...he's put forth crap like this his entire career.

[Mari333]

26. Oh just lie on it...make stuff up

say you shit in the woods, or use an outhouse. Tell them you live with 52 cats. Say you always walk and never drive. Tell them you prefer travelling to Mars for your vacation.
If everyone does that, it will make them crazier then they already are.
Tell them your income is 3 cents per day.
Tell them you smoke cigar butts you find in the gutter near Wal Mart.

[MrBenchley]

30. Holy Koresh forbid the Census Bureau

be able to get a true picture of what goes on in this country....that's just what right wing loonies like. Minorities undercounted and a phony picture of "prosperity"

[redqueen]

33. Hmmmmm

Doesn't really seem that intrusive to me.

:shrug:

[MrBenchley]

31. The actual survey...

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/

[redqueen]

34. Thanks for posting a link

I didn't find anything I would mind answering really.

:shrug:

[MrBenchley]

35. Of course, crapping on this survey

would help those who want to end all anti-discrimination efforts...which is exactly the sort of thing this crackpot Paul has spent his "career" trying to do...

It also plays into the goals of this scumbag Rockwell (see the post above from the SPLC).