Somebody better talk to me before this liberal goes off on some rednecks!

[vetwife]

I am fed up, I am mad. I am ready to start doing something drastic.
I am not blowing smoke but I am so close to 15 minutes of fame somebody better talk to me regarding how these rednecks are torturing my family ! My son finally got a job with a R-winger and another R-winger said, "You should have just gone to the jail got a Rapist or murderer. My vet called the Winger up..words exchanged. My son very passive and depressed for 6 months , the one winger took up for him against the one making accusations and my son never ever been convicted of jaywalking much less calling him a SOB which makes me a Bitch. This entire family is trying to hold me back. It ain't working ! We are trying to help veterans and fix up rooms, and putting everything into it and this is what we get from the R-winged community ! I am still begging to get help for deserving elderly vets and I get crapped on every single day. I don't bluff. I am madder than I have ever been. EVER !

[vetwife]

1. For those wonderful liberals here is my website

http://groups.msn.com/UnitedVeteransofAmerica/whatsnew

[amazona]

2. better to vent here than to commit an assault

I'm not sure I understand the whole situation but it sounds like ignorant ****heads are trying to bait you and/or your son. Don't let them drag you into something you'll regret. Better to get it out here, we're pulling for you.

[vetwife]

8. Shooting the Kery sign wasn't enough..they know how to get to me and Vet

Vet is already on his last leg with holding his dormant evil that lies within and he will lose benefits if he gets his 15 minutes of fame and I answer to no one so I am furious. You are right they are baiting me ! I do know the IRS number though..Wonder how good a shape the Winger's books are in. He doesn't work for the inbred hillbilly but he sure tried to pull work from his r winged boss if he kept him on. This is ridiculous ! Jack would not let me talk to this asshole ! He talked to him...I 'm tired of talking !

[vetwife]

25. Thanks for the prayers gonna need em !

[redqueen]

3. Please don't let them manipulate you!

You're too valuable to the people you're helping, Amanda! I remember when I first saw your posts over on SmirkingChimp -- you've been a great activist and advocate and your help is needed!

If you give in then you might be arrested or otherwise made unable to do the valuable work you do... please, take a moment to pray for some guidance and forget about those irritating know-nothings who are set in your way to stop you. They don't deserve any of your time or energy. Maybe pity, but that's about it.

Sending you good vibes... my prayers are with you and your family!

:hug:

[faithnotgreed]

13. good post redqueen - thank you

[jedicord]

4. I'm with you girl...

No one EVER messes with my son. I literally lose my head and Katy bar the door, because I've been known to scare the bejeesus out of people.

R-wingers are idiots, but, not knowing all the circumstances, your son could have a justified harassment in the workplace case. Does this hate mongerer work with him?

That's a HUGE reason to keep your cool and let your son handle it himself.

BIG high five to another strong mom!

[otohara]

5. Remember It's A Waste of Time

arguing with these stupid, stupid people. Just don't do anything to cause harm to you or your family. They are an angry vindictive group.

Go for a walk, swim, Xanax - anything to calm you down.

[laylah]

6. Although it is easy

for me to say, not being in your shoes, try not to give them the power to upset you like this...and that's all it is about...POWER. You are doing good things, which are totally foreign to freaks like that. Just keep telling yourself that...you have more humanity in your little finger than 10 of them has collectively. If you react and give them what they want (a scene, assault on them, anything negative), they win. As for your son, I don't know the context; however, what a s*itty thing to say to anyone!

Hang in there :hug:

Jenn

[NC_Nurse]

7. Don't do anything

that will come back to haunt you. You can't do anything to change some people and you won't be there for the ones you are helping if you get yourself hurt, arrested or whatever. What you're doing is too important. These people will get what's coming to them - what goes around comes around. You can't spew hate without eating yourself alive.

Hang in there!:hug:

[vetwife]

10. My son has been outof work for 6 months and this guy

is just another contractor who rented to him and he took my son to court over 50 bucks back last year. He hates him. He hates him because hethinks he is a Wimp because he is so passive. My son has learned from Vet, hold your cool..I am not like that !

[Iris]

16. Get your son a copy of "The Verbal Art of Self-Defense"

It might help him deflect some of the bull shit. Just because he is passive, doesn't mean he has to put up with this stuff.

[progressivebydesign]

20. Is there any reason to have these people in your life?

Why must they be part of life for you? Can other people do the things they're doing? I'm a bit confused on the situation... if that r-wing pig is somehow paying your son.. then I'd suggest (if it were my son or daughter) that they cut all ties with them.. even if it means living on Top Ramen for the next two years. Being forced to associate with hateful, vindictive people will kill you slowly...

It's hard restrain yourself when you deal with maddening people like that... but if you lose it, they win. Better to use your energies to devise a plan to have these people out of your lives forever... And regarding your sign being shot, etc.. Any chance you can move to more friendly area? It's hard in Bush's economy, but if there's any way to distance yourself.

What State are you in? There has to be some sympathetic folks out there to comfort you. I'm sorry your family has to go through this. My husband and I are shocked at how so many of us Democrats have come to accept that if we put a sticker on the car, a sign in our yard, or make a comment at work, that we are opening ourselves up for abuse.. yet the right wingers do what they want, without a thought of the reprecussions. Until we can claim our America back from that type of thought-policing, we have to stay cool and work quietly to change it.

Peace.

[classof56]

9. You're better than any of them, Vetwife

Just remember that, and focus on the worthiness of your efforts. Good never goes unrewarded, no matter how some would like to bring us down for doing good. Don't try to sound the depths of the R-wing mind--you'd find yourself in some very dark and evil territory. Don't let their evil actions stand in the way of your good ones. They aren't worth a milli-second of your time, energy and thoughts. And if you can't hold back and end up telling them what you think of them--go for it. Just don't do anything that would cause long-term negative effects for you and your family. Your mission must be accomplished in SPITE of such idiots. They'll never see or understand the good you do, but YOU know and understand, as do those of us here.

Keep focused on the future, and God bless you!

Tired Old Cynic

[vetwife]

11. Thanks ya'll but today I talked to Jay on a similar type thread now

I am beginning to think I gave him wrong advice by telling him to ignore. I am at the end of my rope too. This sorry bunch of hillbilly inbred chicken lilled, hate mongering, usueless scum of wanta be humas has pushed me to the edge and are pushing. I would not hesitate to go to jail...Not for one minute ! This is MY family....Didn't this asswipe have respect for my loss of my mother..this jerk sold us this house. thank God we don't have anything to do with him anymore. Always respectful, always got his rent, don't know them that well but I tell you when I went after their boy Bush . All changed ! They know who where I stand and this bunch of jerks are surrounded by me. Can't move...too many sik people..son can't quit but now afraid for him...can't call a cop..theyw ould be on his side. Tried to call a lawyer for slander. Didn't return my call. I am FURIOUS !

[redqueen]

12. re: a Lawyer - did you try ACLU? SPLC?

re: cops - have you checked with the State AG? I've had to resort to that with an insurance company that tried to screw me years ago, and it worked but quick.

Just some suggestions... hope things work out. How would your family do without you if you were locked up? Could they make out OK for a while?

[vetwife]

14. Don't ya'll know I am a terrorist to these jerks !

A commie, a leftist. you name it. They know how to get to me and I can't think past AUDIT ! I am like that !

[vetwife]

15. No...and that is not being vain..they couldn't

I am the one taking care of everything around here. Everything out here is a joke. I am so tied down here I can't even begin to tell you. VA doctors, Egleston Children Hospital doctors, A chapter 13, just waaaaaaaaaaaay too much. I screwed into the chapter 13 from 4 years ago. Someone talked Vet into it thinking it was a Bill consolidation, we were not even behind on anything then. ITs crazy ! I am still furious ! We can't have guns in this house per Vet's doc, and I want to go hunting !

[redqueen]

17. I'm so sorry

I figured as much re: you're indispensable role in your family. You're clearly shouldering way more than a 'fair share' of the burden, and unfortunately if you were made unable to do your usual chores it would place even more stress on them. Sorry to hear also about your chapter 13 adventure... what a nightmare.

Maybe you could find some buddies to hunt with that could loan you a gun for the trip? You certainly do deserve (and NEED) some time off! I hope you're able to find some SAFE way to let off some steam, Amanda. You're beyond ready to blow a gasket from the way it sounds, and I can surely understand why!

How sad that bush the "uniter" had such a large hand in making things this way for this country. It makes me mad to think how many are in the same kind of situation... :(

[tom_paine]

18. You can't have guns in the house per vets doc?

You don't have to answer the question if it's too personal for a public board (PM me if you wish), but what's up with that?

I can't believe I am saying this, but take a deep breath. Relax.

Choose your battles. We have MANY much more imprtant battle ahead of all of us.

However, a well-placed "Fuck You!" delivered by you or your son might do wonders for a start.

[CaTeacher]

19. I know you are rightly upset

but please please don't talk that way about guns. don't even think about doing something you may regret. honestly, no matter how bad things look now, everything would get a lot worse in a hurry if things get violent.

It sounds like your husband and son are staying cool, I know it is very hard to do--but please don't do anything in the heat of the moment. Think of Gandhi or Dr. King and how they might handle the situation. Those are the people we want to emulate. don't let the crazies pull you down to their level. And yes--I know it is very hard not to react when you are baited.

Perhaps if you tell us more about the situation, people will give you more good advice on how to handle it? I know we would like to help if we could (legal etc) but don't stoop to their level please!

[progressivebydesign]

21. Please calm down.. your family needs you...

.. you have to find a way to get past your feelings of wanting to fight back physically. You will lose in the end. Your family will lose in the end. Your friends will lose. The vets you support will lose... and they will win, again. Do you have a sympathetic friend who can get you out of the house, and away from this for a few hours? Do something totally unrelated to politics. I don't know how old your son is.. but if you asked him, I know he would be mortified to know that you would do something on his behalf that could destroy all your lives.

Life can really suck. Life is not fair. It's just not. Some people are cruel assholes, and they can make our lives miserable... but reacting so violently only hurts you. It's true. We are all passionate about our politics here, but we can't let politics define us as people entirely... or else we'll lose our minds.

I hope you can step back from this for a little while, and ask yourself this: Be truly honest. If your son or other loved one confided in you to be feeling exactly the same way you do at this moment, and have thoughts of doing something so potentially disastrous because of how they felt about a situation. What would you TRULY tell your son, your friend, your loved one? Take your own advice. The advice you gave to Jay on another thread was your true heart. Don't let them win.

[Mz Pip]

22. OK, this may sound counterintuitive

but it could make things a bit easier.

WHen I am up against someone whose only interest is to yank my chain, piss me off and has no interest in my opinion what so ever, I don't argue or even bother to be confrontational.

So someone says, "Kerry is an asswipe jerkoff commie." Obviously the point of this would be to piss me off, raise my blood pressure and bait me into an argument.

So I might instead say, "Ummm could be."

A non commital agreement is last thing that is expected and usually stops 'em cold. There really isn't any point in trying to reason with folks like this.

MzPip
:dem:

[ewagner]

23. In the words of the immortal

Wierd Al Yankovich:

I didn't get mad,
I wished them well
'cause I'll be laughing like crazy
when they're burnin in hell

Let NOBODY take away your committment to the vets.

I wish I could be more like you and I admire everything you're doing.

Peace be with you.

[vetwife]

24. To answer you question, we are in Rural Georgia

My son is in 30's , he has two abcesed teeth that we can't afford to have pulled. He has kicked drugs and is really really trying. He gave me his whole paycheck to help on groceries and for my 80 year old Daddy. All 98.00. He is passive and he thinks little of himself anyway. He is suicidal and has tried so hard/ Now Daddy is upset. My son has come a long way since his wife ran off on drugs and stole the kids and we got them back and adopted them. We are taking care of all of them and Tony had just got the only job that would hire him with no car and trying to help out here. He did not need that jerk to come on the jobsie and embarass him because he thinks Tony owed him 50.00. He doesn't. He took his income taxx check over a year ago for rent. Now the man doing the name calling was the one who hired this guy that Tony works for to do jobs. So he sorta put pressure on the guy because he was giving them work to get rid of him. But the man (another right winger but at least fair) said No..I have no qualm with this man. He is a good worker and he works sick.

Now to be honest about the gun situatin, I was mad. When I said I wanted to go hunting, I didn't mean four legged creatures. The reason the Doc advised against guns in this house is because of my husband's flashbacks. And that is all there is to that.

I know you all are right but my family IS my life. Politics don't meant crap, this country don't mean crap, nothing does when it comes to my kids and my husband. I just love that deep. They wouldnot want me going off the deep end and as far as going somewhere..I can't. I had to borrow today for groceries. There is 7 people here trying to live off 2500.00 a month and I still manage to dig deeper for the vets. I can't even get through the grief of my Mama who died 6 weeks ago because these so called good people are pushing me.

Don't worry about me giving up. Thye may lock me up. I don't know how to handle this rage. I really don't. In this state there is no help for the two disabled kids. There is no meals on wheels in this county. Bob Barr is out here all the time, this is his turf. And to top all things off..I am so tied down here I can't leave. My husband is on the edge and God Forbid, that he goes off. I don't know. I just don't know.

[vetwife]

26. Kicking mad !

[Rebellious Republican]

27. You know what really pisses them off, is when they do not get a

reaction. They are control freaks and thats exactly what they want to see, so if you really want to hurt'em bad! Just smile a lot and be pleasent, thats real strength. I used to live in a rural area of Florida with more pick up trucks with dog cages in the back than you could shake a stick at. I know what you are going through, I own an empty lot on the main road (actually the only road) going in and out of that town. I would allow Dem candidates to put up signs on it. They would get shot up and torn down regularly, so I learned to keep plenty of them in storage and replace them as fast as the could destroy them. It was kinda of funny in a way. Do not do anything stupid that would get you and your family in trouble. Thats what THEY WANT, do not give them the satisfaction.:evilgrin:

[vetwife]

28. I have calmed down some but you know, I wonder is this

what Rush spews to these people. I think some of us need to sue the pants off people like Rush like they did the cigarette people and make some folks accountable for what their comments do and affect the lesser minded.. I thought Slander was still against the law but today was really bad. I took Daddy to get a hot dog and this cop was gonna open the screen door for us at the little stand (screened in) until he said, Is that you car with a Kerry sticker and I said yeah, and he shut the door, pratically knocking my feeble Dad down. I said, "you are here to protect and serve ..yeah right?" then I came home to this ! You are all wiser than I have been but sometimes you want to say A wild animal is kinder than koolaiders pretending to be human.