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Tue Jul-13-04 04:28 PM
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Pete King (R-3rd-NY) emailed me back about cancelling the election. |
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Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 04:28 PM by Bleachers7
I will be emailing him back.
"No one ever wants to cancel elections. Certainly no one wanted to cancel elections on Primary Day, 9/11/01, but they were postponed two weeks to preserve the democratic process which emerged stronger than ever.
Similarly, with the purpose of preserving elections, the federal government wants to have a policy in place which will specify what procedures will be operative if an attack should occur on or before election day in one or more cities or states which would prevent citizens in those locales from voting on election day.
Are you suggesting that elections should have gone ahead on 9/11/01? If not, then I'm sure you must agree that the government is doing the right thing."
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:30 PM
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1. he's not real big on logic, is he? |
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It made sense to postpone on 9/11. Bad shit happened that day, disrupting business in at least two entire huge cities.
Now, using that as his example, he wants to say "See? We need to do this!"
Idiot.
What's your reply?
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:31 PM
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2. I have a few thoughts. |
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And I will let you know. I will probably deal with this tonight. I will talk about Title 3, Chapter 1, Section 2.
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:52 PM
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8. I thought you'd say something along those lines. :-) |
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:toast:
Looking forward to seeing your response.
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:32 PM
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3. Wow! There's one guy who studied his talking points. Like somebodyelse... |
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pointed out. How come they didn't talk about delaying the 2002 elections?
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:36 PM
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4. The argument is so weak |
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it practically amateurish.
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:38 PM
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6. Because they weren't in big trouble yet |
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and with the new touch screen systems in place, they knew they could get away with stealing the election again.
This time they're panicking because even with BBV they can't win anymore and they know it.
This gang doesn't believe in the democratic process and they don't mind killing people to keep their grip on power. Who knows what kind of crap they are going to pull next. However, no matter what it is, it is certain to backfire this time because now, everybody knows.
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:37 PM
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5. IOW, each time an election is planned, an attack will prevent it |
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Wow. Cool for the terrorists. For obvious reasons, each new election date will be announced in advance. The terrorists have had time to make many alternative attack plans while bush left Afghanistan dangling and played posse in Iraq. So all the terrorists need to do now is to plan their attacks around each new election date until -- whaddaya know -- there will be no more elections until the war on terra is won.
New al-Qaeda slogan: So many cities, so little time.
Yeehaw! The terrorists win, bush wins. America and the world lose.
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:51 PM
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7. That is some big attack |
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I do not see how terrorists could ever cause an attack that disrupts the whole country so much. We would have to really be not watching for that to happen......
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:53 PM
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9. Right and if people can't vote that day |
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the law says that the state legislatures will take up the matter.
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Tue Jul-13-04 04:53 PM
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that you're so deeply touched about his concern that citizens won't be prevented from voting if a terrorist attack should occur. Ask him why he didn't show that kind of concern in Florida of 2000 when 100,000 people were wrongfully denied their right to vote.
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Tue Jul-13-04 05:10 PM
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that was having an election on September 11, 2001, was one of only two that were attacked.
Coincidence?
You decide.
Actually I don't believe the timing of the attacks had anything whatsoever to do with NYC's primary that day. I suspect that none of the planners or actually participants (meaning the hijackers) had any idea that a primary was that day.
And if they did, it wouldn't have mattered, because the point of the attacks was to terrorize the United States as a whole, not to disrupt NYC politics.
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Tue Jul-13-04 05:18 PM
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13. Bingo! They were postponed because the city having them was attacked |
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If the entire country came under attack by terrorists the day before Election Day, it might be reasonable to postpone elections. But if only one or two locations are attacked, why cancel elections nationwide?
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Tue Jul-13-04 05:31 PM
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14. What does whole country really mean? |
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All 50 states? The law already provides for it. If the votes aren't cast on time, then the state legislatures would select the electors.
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Tue Jul-13-04 05:16 PM
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Conservatives seem unable to comprehend the fact that the primaries in NY were delayed because there was no other choice. As in NO OTHER CHOICE. It was physically impossible to have the vote that day because of the vicinity of the attacks. Even in a "doomsday" scenario (which is ridiculous to even talk about), the states/areas which are physically able to continue with the voting will, and the states/areas that cannot will vote as soon as possible. This is not going against the Constitution because the States would have attempted to have the voting on the same day, but would have been unable to do so. Secondly, WHO CARED ABOUT THOSE ELECTIONS?!?! Those elections really did not matter when compared to the Presidential elections, which are, I believe, the most important elections in the U.S. To give the executive branch powers to even postpone an election the slightest bit would be to neutralize the voice of the people. The so-called "evildoers" that are supposedly trying their best to destroy America's freedoms are having thier jobs outsourced...to the White House.
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Tue Jul-13-04 10:30 PM
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16. Wouldn't postponing the election |
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be giving in to the terrorists?;-)
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Tue Jul-13-04 11:11 PM
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17. Interesting he chose the word "cancel" instead of postpone |
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And I don't imagine it was a Freudian slip, either.
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Tue Jul-13-04 11:15 PM
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18. States make election laws |
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The State affected by any terrorist attack can decide what to do about their own election. I would guess the States already have natural disaster election laws written. The rest of us can vote as usual. We'll just have to wait longer for the results. No need for any federal policy on this at all.
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Tue Jul-13-04 11:33 PM
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Isn't he the guy that was cussing you out or something? I know you've had run-ins with him before.
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