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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:46 PM
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So what will it take for us to have to STORM the Capital??
Delaying the election?
Banning gay marriage?
voting on things no one has read?


... I for one think we should tar-and-feather all lobbyists.

Time to take back our Republic
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:51 PM
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1. Oh.. and FUCK the department of homeland security
i'm sure they have labled me a terrorist by now

Gay Bears Unite!

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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:52 PM
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2. I Think "Tar And Feathers" Is A good Choice
Along with riding their asses out-of-town on a splintery rail...and there might be a market for that at Home Depot, Lowe's or Wal-Mart if enough people ask.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:57 PM
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3. Tar And Feathers are very cheap!
At $50 price per ton of road tar and feathers @ 50 cents per pound (going rates)I think we could do it on the cheap!

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mapster Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:02 PM
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4. "tar-and-feather all lobbyists"
My daughter's mother-in-law is a lobbyist for her company at the state level and I once said to her that, pardon the sentiment, I thought all lobbying should be outlawed. She got bit insulted, my daughter about choked, (she agrees with me) and the m-i-l didn't speak to me for a while. But I think its true. Our voices are completely drowned out but the moneyed interests in this country.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:16 PM
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5. The History of Tar and Feathers in Colonial America
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 06:18 PM by The Sushi Bandit
In the 1760s, tarring and feathering, a punishment that dates back to the days of the Crusades, began to appear in New England seaports. It was most often applied by patriot mobs against British tax collectors and loyalists (loyal to Britain, that is). The mere threat of it insured that by November 1, 1765, the day the Stamp Act was to go into effect, there was not a single stamp commissioner left in the colonies to collect the new tax.

In the Spring of 1766 John Gilchrist, a Norfolk merchant and ship-owner, came to believe that Captain William Smith had reported his smuggling activities to British authorities. Gilchrist and several accomplices, including the mayor of Norfolk, captured Smith to apply punishment. They "dawbed my body and face all over with tar and afterwards threw feathers on me," Smith reported. Then they carted him "through every street in town" and tossed him into the sea.

By March, 1770, at least thirteen people had been tarred and feathered in the American colonies. In every case, the tar brush was applied to customs inspectors and informers, persons responsible for enforcing the Townsend duties. The campaign was very successful. Townsend duties revenues soon fell below the costs of enforcement, and the British government repealed the taxes on all imports but tea.


At that point tarring and feathering of these loathed individuals came to a virtual halt. But feathering had proved such an effective deterrent that patriot leaders quickly devised a new use for it. When Whig merchants created a series of nonimportation agreements, they used the threat of tar and feathers to enforce it. Boston mobs even took to feathering one's property, one crowd even taking the tar brush to an uncooperative merchant's horse.

After 1773, the punishment that had once been reserved for tax collectors was increasingly being applied to any suspected "enemy to the rights of America."

In August 1774 Virginians were urged to sign pledges of loyalty to the Continental Congress and to stop the export of tobacco until all taxes on imported goods were repealed. As an alternative to the pledges they were offered tar and feathers.

Even women took part in the patriotic ritual. In one instance, the members of a quilting bee seized a youth who dared to speak out against the Continental Congress. But the boy might have considered himself fortunate, for instead of tar and feathers he got molasses and "the downy tops of the flags that grew in the meadow."

Patriot organizers soon recognized the injustice of persecuting people who had not committed any crimes against the colonies and began to urge the American people to put aside the practice. Despite their misgivings, however, it continued throughout the Revolution and even afterwards.


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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:30 PM
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6. oops
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:21 PM
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11. What would the White House guards do if we showed up with a barrel of tar.
and pillow cases??
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:47 PM
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7. Here's a quotation for you.......
Thanks for standing up to your daughter's MIL........ it's hard to do, but we're going to have to speak out more.

I'm coming to the conclusion that one of the best ways to counteract these conservative people is to start questioning the patriotism of these policies. Our founders were quite concerned about where the power was actually coming from in this country, and quoting some of those things may have an effect.

This one isn't from a founder, but a respected Republican:

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety
of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow,
and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of
the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)

Kanary
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:54 PM
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8. Bingo
The Republican party is shivering under the potential collapse of its own weight -- meaning balancing their paleocons, their neocons, their theocons and their corpo-fascists. To pull the support of paleocons/libertarians is one of the most important things we can do to pull their leg out from under them.

Hence, my new bumperstickers -- which will be arriving in the mail in 2-10 days:

I Love the Constitution
CHURCH & KING '04 Vote GOP
Same "Big," Different "Brother." (& a no sign over GOP)
Yet Another Independent for Kerry/Edwards 04

This is one of the most convincing arguments -- and its not a sham, either. It may be a clever plot to spread around that we should bolster this argument, but the facts are all there. The GOP is a travesty to our Constitution and our system of Democracy.

As I've said -- the left and right have played out their various versions of "big brother." We have to go BACK to the Constitution, and the writings of its founders, to figure out how to solve some of these problems.

It will be too late for that if the GOP manages to trash it.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:58 PM
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9. good ones.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:05 PM
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13. Love your graphic! but where is the tar & feathers??


Gay Bears Unite!
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:13 PM
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10. and question the patriotism of those who outsource
they destroy the lives of their former workers and thus the quality of life in US

and question their understanding of their own self interest.....if everyone is making Walmart wages,,,, who can afford their products/services??????
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:20 PM
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14. exactly
The courts ruled that you couldn't limit money's influence because the Constitution said free speech couldn't be restricted. But, by making it so that you have to have money to purchase speech, and representation, they have effectively transferred the rights of the people to corporations, the wealthy, and the crooked - or even those who are all three!
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 05:23 PM
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15. kick
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:23 PM
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12. Guns
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