Bush was AWOL
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:46 PM
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Why are right wingers obsessed with the Clintons? |
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Right now now on Hannity and Colmes they have some guy on who insists the Clintons want Kerry to lose. Does anyone here really buy into that theory?
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seabeyond
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:48 PM
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doesnt matter what clinton wants. matters what i want and i want bush out
no i dont think clinton wants bush to leave. think it is the same feeding crap they have done on all the dem stuff, be it kerry edward gay to the wives to whatever
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Bush was AWOL
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:52 PM
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3. Well, I think it does matter to some extent what the Clinton's |
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want. They are very powerful figures in the democratic party, but I doubt they would sacrifice their own country for another 4 years under Bush just so Hillary can win a nomination in 08 that would not even be guaranteed to go her way.
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:49 PM
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Their "guest" must be Dick Morris.
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:52 PM
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By 1992 Republicans had come to believe that they had a lock on the presidency. Bill Clinton proved them wrong, and did it again in 1996, and he beat them again with the impeachment deal.
They don't have to hate Ted Kennedy, Jesse Jackson and Barney Frank because those men are not electable Democrats who could win a national election. Clinton was electable, and Republicans feared that if Clinton was allowed to succeed, he could re-legitimize the activist social welfare state Republicans worked so hard to discredit in the 1980's.
And if the Clintons were really trying to help Kerry lose, Hillary could forget about my vote in 2008. The Democratic base would not permit that kind of crap. Besides, she can run in 2012, when she'll only be 65, which is not all that old anymore.
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:52 PM
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5. It's absolutely true! The Clintons want Kerry to lose. |
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If the freepers really want to show those Clintons, they'd vote against Bush. :)
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:53 PM
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God, I hope this guy is on every show there is saying that the Clinton's don't want Kerry to win - that will win over a whole lot of Repubs for sure. Spread the word.
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:54 PM
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7. Right wingers seem to think we adore and worship Clinton... |
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and that if they tell us that CLINTON thinks such and such, we'll automatically agree with him!
And no, I don't buy it for a second.
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:53 AM
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murielm99
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:54 PM
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Why bother listening to Hannity and Colmes in the first place?
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Bush was AWOL
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:58 PM
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9. There aren't any other good options at 9 |
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and I like to get their daily talking points.
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Tue Jul-13-04 09:26 PM
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15. You have a very strong stomach |
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Just saying the word "Clinton" gets a Pavlovian response from the RW facists.
BTW, there are plenty of other productive things you could be doing at 9PM besides watching Insanity and colmes.
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Tue Jul-13-04 08:59 PM
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10. The worst part of this is... |
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That they think we will swallow this bilge and get all het up or something.
So, this is their rumor. What could possibly be its intended effect?
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Tue Jul-13-04 09:02 PM
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11. Clinton is thier skeletor. |
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As evil as these people might seem to us, in thier minds they are hero's. This isnt just party politics to them, its a movement to change the way this country operates because they think the end result will be a better world, fitting to whatever thier personal philosophies of better are.
When Goldwater got beaten they just got angrier at the opposition and came back with harsher and more devious tactics. Reagan was thier savior. He got them into power and it seeemed like they had won. They were huge. Bush comes they think they can just ride the success through Bush, even though he isnt as radical as they are. Bush falters and Clinton ruins everything. They have to sit through 8 years of waiting after they thought they had a blank check to run this country for a long long time.
They got madder and madder again, especially at Clinton. And thier philosophies wont allow them to accept that Clinton was just a good man. They have to believe he is evil and devious, because they are the good guys. So Clinton is hated, and they have come back with even more desperate and devious methods to win the fight.
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Tue Jul-13-04 09:07 PM
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12. And no, the Clintons want Kerry to win |
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They both gain far more political power with a Kerry win.
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Bush was AWOL
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Tue Jul-13-04 09:13 PM
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13. This explains it all, imo |
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"When Goldwater got beaten they just got angrier at the opposition and came back with harsher and more devious tactics. Reagan was thier savior. He got them into power and it seeemed like they had won. They were huge. Bush comes they think they can just ride the success through Bush, even though he isnt as radical as they are. Bush falters and Clinton ruins everything. They have to sit through 8 years of waiting after they thought they had a blank check to run this country for a long long time."
They couldn't beat him that's why they hated him. He was actually very moderate, too.
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Tue Jul-13-04 09:16 PM
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was a southerner, smarter than the right and repub's gave him credit for, and most importantly, he took away their favorite toy--the presidency. He could have the gold of Midas, the tongue of Sharherezod and the looks of Atlas and they'd still hate him. Afterall he took head in what they consider their hallowed hall, the "oral office". Whatever.
Clinton and his wife are over. I repeat, they are O-V-E-R. The fact that they can raise a pile of money for the Dem's and that he beat the repub's at their own malicious game makes him scary. The right considers him the poster child for social evil and debauchary.
No, he does not want the Dem. ticket to lose and has said as much. More spin from the sicko's.
Look people, we have to start emailing the media about all this spin and bias. We deserve better and they won't provide it until we scare them into providing journalism in place of sleazeism.
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Tue Jul-13-04 09:38 PM
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16. RWers are obsessed with Democrats...period.. |
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They have no concept of the ideals this country was founded on..
...The Freedom of Religion is a basic tenant.
...The Freedom to Choose is another basic tenant.
...The Right to a happy, Peaceful Life without interference from the government..
All the above basic tenants are willfully abrogated by the Republican Party.
Republicans = Anti-American.
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Tue Jul-13-04 09:41 PM
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17. They're dumbstruck at how good of a President he was |
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and since he was so great, they have to make shit up to try and bring him down to their level.
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Tue Jul-13-04 11:05 PM
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20. He made the Republicans look like the simple-minded hacks |
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that they are. I mean he REALLY made them look stupid. Nobody likes that - we need 1,000,000 Clintons. We need to study him and figure out how he was able to mind control the opposition to the point where they went crazy and impeached him over something entirely irrelevant. Even the impeachment made them look bad in the long run even though it hurt Clinton and the Dem's in the short term.
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Tue Jul-13-04 11:10 PM
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Clinton is the invincible politician :)
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Tue Jul-13-04 10:29 PM
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18. For the same reason left wingers are obsessed with the Bushes |
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Hate. Pure and simple hate. Nothing more.
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Tue Jul-13-04 10:43 PM
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19. There is something pure and simple about why we hate * |
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Because we love our Constitution and do not want to see it destroyed. Pure and simple. Nothing more.
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:57 AM
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Bush and company are despised by the left wing on matters of policy, from tax codes to the envrionment to the radical foreign policy.
Not the mention his wanting to funnel our tax dollars to religious organizations.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:31 AM
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22. Clinton himself said it best. He spoke at UC Berkeley ... |
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last year, I think, or maybe it was the year before.
He was asked why the right hated him so much.
Clinton said simply: "Because I won."
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Wed Jul-14-04 03:20 AM
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23. Why do they hate Clinton thread #4,389 |
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Good luck, but my guess is that they are jealous.
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