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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:17 AM
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"If you want to protect marriage so bad, ban divorce."
Why aren't the Democratic Senators more belligerent about this proposed amendment? It seems like they are slumping back into their classic "the Patriot Act and Iraq War seem like a great idea" mode.

They should be spewing fire at this transparent attempt to use intolerance as a smoke screen for everything else that's happening in the world. The anger doesn't seem to be there anymore.

Rant off.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:23 AM
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1. That is the crux of this. Go to the roots of the rot and take care of it,
don't scapegoat. On the other hand, I can remember when divorce was banned and that sucked too. What politicians need to do is stay out of marriage, make the country have good jobs, good educational systems and a lot of crap will fall away. When there is opportunity,
equality and prosperity, then there can be attention to other things, like marriage. Given that we are in economic free fall, a war on two fronts and all the rest, *THIS*!?!??!?!?! is what they are fighting about now!?!?!?!?!?!?!??????!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!??!!?!?!?

Morons.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:27 AM
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2. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to ban divorce.
But it's pretty logically disconnected to blame gays for the failure of straight marriage.

The leading cause of marriage failure is divorce. Any person who leaves a straight relationship to pursue a gay one was gay to begin with.

That's the crux of this matter...the Republicans are pretty blatantly appealing to the belief that homosexuality is a contagious mental disease. That if gay marriage is legal, otherwise straight people will suddenly "become" gay.
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:57 AM
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3. My marriage
to my wife hasn't effected my neighbor's. As far as I can tell they are as miserable as ever!
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 05:15 AM
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4. I heard a fundy preacher on the radio yesterday say:
"If members of the same sex are allowed to desecrate the holy sacrament of marriage that God gave us, pretty soon young people won't bother getting married at all."

Doesn't anyone listening to this crap take three seconds to stop and think about how that makes no sense whatsoever?

And I've never read a state-issued marriage license, but I doubt that they say God personally approved the union.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 06:24 AM
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6. That's some interesting logic.
Sounds like that guy's God Module is on overdrive.
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Bettie Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:08 AM
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8. The problem isn't young people not getting married!
The problem is so many people entering marriage without a clear idea what they want from marriage.

Frankly, after being denied the right of marriage for so long, I suspect that gay couples will be a little more serious about the whole prospect as a whole than most heterosexual couples.

I have seen so many people go blindly into marriage for various reasons, only to divorce a year or two later.

Frankly, the whole debate is so stupid! I mean, really, what does it matter what someone else does. If I don't approve of your choice and it doesn't break any laws, well, then, its none of my business.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 05:46 AM
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5. I think marriage means different things to every one.
Some people marry in churches because of that and lots of times they do not even follow the laws they marry under, in the church. But some believe in open style types. It is just a contract.I do not see the big deal the GOP is making of this.
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jeanmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:01 AM
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7. The only way to prevent divorce 100% is....
to prevent marriage. To save marriage from divorce, I propose abolishing marriage all together.

In 100% of all the divorce cases, there was a marriage first. It stands to bizarro reason that if stop marriage, you kill divorce. ;)

I think banning divorce and having a debate about that is more legitimate that people with a different sex preference are killing our marriages.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:19 AM
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9. I agree.
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