Anyone watching C-SPAN 2?

[skooooo]

Senate debating the anti-gay marriage ammendment. Gordon Smith R-Oregon now talking.

[XanaDUer]

1. I heard Santorum was begging

scary, scary guy.

[RobertSeattle]

6. Reminded me of the definition of "Santorum"...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=santorum&f=1

[terrya]

11. Dan Savage outdid himself with that one. :-) eom

[Supormom]

2. They are still debating this issue?

I thought they decided to table the Amendment after it was obvious that it would not pass.

[WMliberal]

4. they can still talk about it.

Inhofe, Santorum, et al can't resist a chance to tell everyone how much they hate gays.

[skooooo]

5. Daschle is talking now....

...asking what is the urgent need to ammend the constitution when the Marriage defense act has not been successfully challenged in court.

[GiovanniC]

10. They Gotta Get Their Amendment Passed

People are becoming more tolerant of gays every year. Must codify hate into the Constitution NOW. It cannot wait.

[skooooo]

13. ..yeah but they don't even have enough procedural.

..votes to get a real vote. And of course they don't have 2/3 majority for this piece of crap ammendment.

[GiovanniC]

19. I Know That, and You Know That

I don't think that a lot of the laypeople who want the amendment passed know that, and I believe that most of the Republicans in the Senate are using that ignorance plus this issue to equal votes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1989907&mesg_id=1990246

[terrya]

3. Smith is for it, right? Who is for federal hate crimes laws?

Sort of an inconsistency there, I think.

[skooooo]

7. ..he said several subtle things..

...before my computer froze. Before I got disconnected he was asking whether the Senate really stands for state's rights or not.

[kevinhnc]

8. Been watching it a while now...

It is so blatant that some members of the Senate are trying to usurp power from the judicial branch.

Passing an amendment that specifically addresses something the courts MIGHT do is a blatant abuse of power and goes against the founding fathers and their implementation of checks and balances.

Why doesn't anyone talk about this?

[LittleApple81]

9. LET THEM WASTE MORE TIME. They have diarrhea of the brain.

I think they are hanging themselves with their own rope.
If I were a democrat I would go and have a drink (or a cup of coffee, or talk to my constituents...this last one would be a novel idea) instead of listening to these mad dogs.

[ClassWarrior]

12. Do you mean the Anti Marriage Rights amendment?

n/t

[skooooo]

14. debate just ended..i think

[Ducks In A Row]

15. While glad the amendment it doomed

I'm disturbed by the reasoning the Democrats are using. The Defense of Marriage bill passed almost 10 years ago. This hate-filled law is working fine. The Dems are actually boasting that we don't need an amendment because most states already proudly discriminate against same-sex couples.

Hell, Daschle (D-South Dakota, Minority Leader) just proudly said,

"In South Dakota we've never had a single same-sex marriage. And we won't have any. It's prohibited by South Dakota law. As it is now in 38 other states. There is no confusion. There is no ambiguity. As others have noted. In 1996 this Congress passed the Defense of Marriage Act. It defines marriage. It protects states from any other actions taken by another state to in any way undermine the law of that state. What is overlooked by many is that it has never been challenged in court successfully. not once."

Damn. With friends like this, you might as well take us out and shoot us. It'll be more humane.

[skooooo]

17. yeah, but if they use non-legal arguments..

...the Republicans will amplify anything they say and use it against them. I think they are just playing it smart, but I certainly see what you are saying. I haven't heard all of the arguments, but I'm sure there were other arguments the Dems came up with...

[Ducks In A Row]

24. I just wish they weren't proud and happy

to alreay discriminate. A little shame-faceness wouldn't hurt.

:thumbsdown:

[LittleApple81]

21. Translate: OUR STATE LEGISLATURES/POPULATIONS ARE BIGOTTED

ENOUGH. We don't need to worry about this. They have already done an excellent job of discriminating against gays.

[skooooo]

22. ...i think there's more to it than that..

...but i'm sure i can't convince you of it.

[ok222]

16. Just turned it on....

is it in voting process yet?

[skooooo]

20. I think they're voting to end the debate

...

[Imalittleteapot]

18. Voting on Cloture

[ok222]

23. Ok forgive me I'm new to

that word Cloture, OK never mind I found it on http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/cloture.htm

[Supormom]

25. Welcome to DU ok222

:hi: