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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:53 PM
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"the Republicans don't plan on yielding power under any circumstances" . .
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 12:58 PM by OneBlueSky
Maureen Farrell, posting on Buzzflash, is worried . . . here she recaps 25 statements from various sources that lead her to believe that "the Republicans don't plan on yielding power under any circumstances" . . . I tend to agree with her, though I don't know if they'll accomplish their objective by cancelling the elections . . .

Liberty, Vigilance and the Writing on the Wall
by Maureen Farrell
Buzzflash.com
July 14, 2004

http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/07/far04023.html

Though a cynic might deduce that this administration’s game plan is to either scare the public into voting for Bush or, barring that, to simply cancel or manipulate the election, it’s important to remember that eternal vigilance is, in fact, the price of liberty. So, once again: Will the 2004 election be called off?

As surreal as this sounds, for the first time in the country’s history, it looks as if could be. Or it could be postponed, while the administration and media sell us God knows what.

With that in mind, here is a brief run down of statements experts, pundits and regular Joes have been making for months that suggest even more terror -- and more unconstitutional clampdowns -- may be headed our way:

- more . . .

http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/07/far04023.html
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Arianrhod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:08 PM
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1. "The will of the people be damned!"
The */fu campaign slogan.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:10 PM
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2. Those SOBs must want a revolution ??
it's headed that way...if they try that crap.
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:17 PM
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3. nah, not if so many of us
are so opposed to gun ownership. We'd be like fish in a barrel.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:23 PM
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6. What kind of gun would you have in your home to protect against....?
a helicopter gunship or a 500 lb bomb? Guns, as defined by the NRA, are not going to protect us against a government bent on fascism and totalitarian control. Better get you some of those shoulder-fired rocket launchers if you want to compete...:)
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:19 PM
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4. In Iraq they moved the "transfer of power" forward
to avoid problems. I think we should do that too. Let's hold the elections next week!
;-)
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:21 PM
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5. LOL!....good point.
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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:30 PM
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7. i've not yet read the whole thing
but the quote in the post title is enough. what if they really don't have any intention of losing, no matter what? via the internet, where i've been well ahead of the news curve before (as are most here) i've read:

-of plans to postpone or cancel the election
-of a highly likely "terror" attack specifically intended to "disrupt" the election
-of continued use of voting machines despite activists clearly demonstrating that machines don't work and often break state laws
-plenty of whispers about dirty tricks and voter intimidation
-and so on

bushco has got the machines, the media (fake polls), nader, and all the law enforcement he needs, plus a whole host of shady characters with a proven record of f*cking up elections. not to mention plenty of cash.the things they say and do these day show NO interest in pleasing the moderate middle, let alone any concern for how their action piss off the rest of us.

while rove is no genius, i'm pretty sure they've already got a plan in place that's much more sophisticated than anything i can imagine.

i really don't think *'s going to "lose" even while i know he could never win a fair election.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:34 PM
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8. What a damn excellent idea !
Let's forward that to the DNC! :)
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:51 PM
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9. Terror Attack, no need to delay the election
Except maybe in the state or area where such an attack occurs (and than only about a week). Thus a Terror attack is NOT enough to stop an election but lets think bigger, what about social unrest caused by a giant leap in the price of Gasoline.....

Right now Supply is equaling world wide demand for Oil, but what if that is NOT sustainable? The US is the most dependent country on oil, and thus the Country that will suffer the most if the price of oil goes through the roof. Such a giant price increase would lead to social un-rest (and a large anti-Bush vote turnout).

Prices are going up and down (Which is what to expect as oil nears peak production). If you have a sudden downturn in production (i.e. the Saud's field go dry as some people fear OR Saudi Arabia goes into Civil War as some people fear) than the price of Gasoline may go to $10 -20 a gallon. With that price increase you get economic chaos in the US as the Stock Market collapse and the rest of the Economy follows.

In such a Scenario you will have outward calm, but people will be losing their homes, their cars, (and their Jobs). People will want ACTION and this President is incapable of any meaningful Action (i.e. rapid call for use of non-oil transportation, Massive reduction in the mi litany's use of oil, reduction in gasoline use by Government Agencies, require local and state Governments to reduce oil usage, etc.).

Simply put, you will have outward clam, but riots as people demand Bush to do something. In such a Situation I can see Bush canceling the election "For the Common Good" do to the terror actions of such unemployed people. Now Congress will NOT pass a bill giving Bush the power to stop an election do to such people's protests, thus the reason why Al Queda type terror is fear being cited. Congress will give Bush the Power to stop an Election to do such terror act, with Bush knowing it will not be needed in case of a Al Queda Attack, but ill be needed in urban unrest caused by the rapid increase in the price of oil.
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sunny5555 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:59 PM
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10. Another Defeatist.
Losers telegraph their thoughts. We have a wining ticket,buck up and get on board.
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