Ditka's Many Indiscretions vs. Obama's Drug Use - discuss

[tcfrogs]

Personally, I don't care about either of their past behaviors. But it'll come up if this does indeed become the matchup.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. What drug use???

[tcfrogs]

2. He's gone on record

Said he used cocaine & pot in the past. Like I said, I don't really care, but there are those who will.

[redqueen]

6. How old is he?

We can say that he stopped before he turned 40, for one.

We can also say that despite past indiscretions, he's actually qualified for the job.

[Terran]

24. He's 41

even though he looks like he's 25. I have no idea when this drug use ceased. I hope it doesn't hurt him. I just read a long article about him earlier today and no mention was made of that.

[redqueen]

26. It was during his teen years. n/t

[Cheneys_former_heart]

10. You have a link for that?

Like a quote or something? I have never heard this charge about Obama.

[Hoping4Change]

12. He used them as a teenager. Link

http://www.mapinc.org/newsnorml/v03/n1786/a06.html

[tandot]

16. Cocaine & pot...like Bush?

none-issue

[Ducks In A Row]

21. Not like Bush

Obama was a kid, Bush was an adult

Obama was truthful and open, Bush has been lying through his teeth from day one.

Obama learned from his experience, Bush and Ditka never grow or change.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. A Few Differences

a) Obama has apparently copped to it, making him not a flaming hypocrite..

b) Obama was not the governor of a state with outrageously draconian mandatory minimum sentences for drug possession.. (Although it would be interesting to see his take on them)

c) For whatever mysterious reason ("corporate!"... excuse me while I clear my throat.."media!") these kinds of bullshit issues seem to stick to Democrats, while folks like Dubya are given a free pass.

That said, hopefully it won't matter.

[tandot]

32. You are right. I shouldn't even compare those two.

sorry, my bad

And I totally agree with your c) ... most journalists are nothing more than Bush whores.

[greatauntoftriplets]

3. As I see it, the big problem with Ditka...

...is his hair-trigger temper.

[tcfrogs]

5. But wouldn't that make it fun?

Can you see him on the Senate floor - going into his ridiculous rants.

[redqueen]

7. No

We've had enough disgracing of the Senate Chamber with Dick "Fuck Yourself" Cheney, thankyouverymuch.

[GiovanniC]

17. It'll Be Fun In the DEBATES

n/t

[porphyrian]

4. I don't give a shit what they do on their own time.

If they're high while making policy that affects me, however, they better get me high, too. Those are my tax dollars at work, after all.

[thebigidea]

8. well, thanks for bringing it up.

[buycitgo]

33. hey! big idea!

been looking for you!

can you post that Gloria Borger picture again?

got a new computer and want to put it up as my wallpaper

thx

[dr.strangelove]

9. Ditka will be tough to beat

Mike Ditka will be difficult to beat. He is a VERY intelligent man. I have been to three events where he was a motivational speaker and at each I spoke to him after the event. He has well thought out opinions, though he often uses harsh language to show his strgon feelings on a range of topics. This may appeal to someone turned off by Obama's schooled political approach.

Also, Ditka has a long and successful history in the broadcast booth. He can work a camera and thinks fast on his feet. He will not be an easy foe.

Obama has his work cut out for him. I see something in the 52-53% of the vote for Obama, he would have been in the 60s against Ryan. A lot will turn on the Key Note address.

[Bluebear]

13. Ditka is not even a registered voter

nt

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Does Ditka even have any positions on the issues?

I mean, aside from being in favor of Kielbasa and the T Formation?

[redqueen]

27. LOL!

I think he's rabidly anti-choice... not sure of anything else.

Thanks for the laugh. :)

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Great. That Figures.

On the plus side, that'll hurt him in the suburbs. Are the people downstate Bears fans?

[Walt Starr]

22. Ditka may have blown it this morning

He sotrmed out of a meeting with the guys who get to decide who replaces Ryan on the ballot.

Not a good sign for Ditka's candidacy. If he won't play ball with these guys, he can't run.

[trumad]

28. Funny post....

Believe me, Ditka is not as revered as some think. He was a horrible football coach and was equally as bad in the broadcast booth. To say that he's bright seriously is misleading. He's a hardboiled egg.

[buycitgo]

34. beat me to the punch

I/m still laughing

who goes to those motivational speech things in the first place

not to mention paying MONEY?

very good satire that was, yes?

[dr.strangelove]

39. No Satire, lets see the first polls tomorrow with

Ditka against Obama.

For those of you who think Ditka was a bad football coach, to each his own. He oerformed very well when he had the players. Irregardless, I think the polls will have him in the running tomorrow or Friday once they come out.

[buycitgo]

40. seriously, you are one funny mofo

seriously

buy you a porkchop at Dikka's when he gets within 10 points

[Inland]

42. Ditka was bad enough as a coach

He got one superbowl--with the players, as you note--and when he left the bears nobody thought it was a bad idea. Now the 1985 bears is old news. It was eighty five, right? He's as corny and outdated as the Superbowl Shuffle.

And if any one of three dozen pubbies hadn't already turned the office down, nobody would be considering him. He's the bottom of the barrell.

[Cary]

11. Ditka had several DUIs.

Which is worse?

[Elginoid]

14. a lot of the people who'll vote for Ditka have had several DUI's each too-

they'll see him as someone they can relate to.

[redqueen]

15. Great - if that's true our country will be down the toilet in no time.

Yay! Finally I can vote for morans like me! WHoooooopeeee!

:puke:

[Warren DeMontague]

25. But if they're drunk on election day..

Maybe they'll get lost and end up trying to vote at the laundromat.

[Walt Starr]

29. How many of them are actually registered to vote

unlike Ditka who is not registered to vote in Illinois?

[buycitgo]

35. you still here?

amazing

[SonofMass]

18. How good was Obama on the post route?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

19. Let's consider

Drug use victim: Obama
DUI and Hair-trigger temper victim: All of society.

[NervousRex]

31. Ditka's greatest indiscretion....

was being born. Haven't we had our fill of his brand of masculinity? The scared little boy trapped in a big ugly body....lashing out at the world, and himself (violent sports, heavy drinking, etc.). This poor man is a severely mentally damaged excuse for a human being. I pity him, but do not want to see this piece of filth elected to the senate.









/edited for missing word/

[buycitgo]

37. tell us what you really think!

just relax, have fun, and watch him selfdestruct before your very eyes

guar ahn fricking T'ed

[Walt Starr]

36. Ditka is supposed to be on Navy Pier in about an hour

appearing with Dennis Hastert, according to draftditka.com:

http://www.draftditka.com/

I think we'll have an answer soon...

[buycitgo]

38. thanks for that!

four networks running with story now\

WBBM says it's doubtful

his wife was on, and is worried about his health

wmaq running poll: should he run?

answer at 6

judy barr topinka says she feels great about the coach

allan hug: he's a proven leader

this is GREAT!

rally tomorrow; don't think anything will happen tonight

[buycitgo]

41. number 2 story on NBC national news is Dikka!

not on yet