F 911 Question

[Stevendsmith]

Why would no one in the Senate object on the record to the Florida election debacle? There had to be Democratic Senators who wanted to sign it, and yet none did. Was this some kind of back room thing where deals were made or what? Can anyone provide me some info that would shed light on this? Moore didn't really go into it (and I don't blame him, but I'd like to know more).

[trumad]

1. Gore asked them not tooooo...

[papau]

2. House vote wasa lock for GOP - so no point

sigh...

:-(

[Shakespeare]

3. Actually, wasn't that part of the power-sharing deal that Daschle cut?

Their silence in exchange for the 50/50 power share.

[peachy]

4. It can't be as simple as that

can it? That was the one peice of information in the film that I didn't already have some knowledge of. What was Gore's motivation?

[trumad]

6. Again...the GOP had the votes and it would have been pointless

to continue a fight that would not have been won. Gore did not want to tear apart the country.... He may have been wrong but at least he had honor.

[redqueen]

8. Tear the country apart? GMAB!

How about he just force the criminals to stand up and be counted as democracy-hating thugs?

[WilliamPitt]

10. And how would he have gone about 'forcing' that?

[trumad]

11. Hey..I agree....

but back then I was a putz about it... I had nooooo idea!

[AndyTiedye]

7. Gore Didn't Want to be President by then. That Much is Obvious

If he had shown ANY of the fire during his campaign that he has SINCE then,
it would not have been possible for Bush* to steal the election because it
would not have been anywhere close.

Perhaps PNAC and/or the BFEE had made him an offer he couldn't refuse,
and reminded him of what would happen if he did refuse.
(can you say, "President Lieberman"?).
Mel Carnahan's plane crash may have been an additional warning.

The prospect of being President could well have lost its appeal after that.

[Canuckistanian]

12. You've got to remember

it was an explosive time. A powderkeg waiting to go off.
Al Gore didn't want to risk starting a major crisis by letting the vote go to a tie - with himself casting the deciding vote as President of the House.

[Longhorn]

14. As vice president, Gore was president of the Senate, not the House.

But it was an explosive time and, technically speaking, "the system worked."

And the system will truly work if we vote Bush* out this time!

[Canuckistanian]

15. I stand corrected

Posting too fast. But I agree, the system will work again.

[Elginoid]

5. It would have been a moot point-

with the repug majority in the house, it was destined to go nowhere.

[FighttheFuture]

9. Randi Roades explained...

The Senate was 50/50 then. Gore would have been the tie-braking vote if this came up (needing one Senator to sign on). Gore asked them not to because he felt it would not be a way to have a Presidency.


My thoughts...

Some would call this weakness. I call is character and putting your country's welfare ahead of your aspirations. Unfortunately, he did not realize how low his opponent would go. Many did not.

I, who had thought Bush a miserable failure when he was first getting into the Presidential race never thought things would go so bad. Just when I think they have hit rock bottom, each month, each week, sometimes each day brings a new surprise.

Let's face it, after what they did to Clinton, do you really blame Gore for not trying for such a divided and contested presidency? I don't. Fuck the sheeple. Alas, the only way to growth for most is pain, pain, pain!! We have not had enough by any measure, yet.

[library_max]

13. The specific objection was to the voter purge.

And it was crying over spilt milk at that point. First of all, states DO have the right to try to keep felons from voting - at issue was the ham-handed way Florida went about doing it, and whether it actually rose to an equal-protection issue. But more to the point, the only possible recourse would have been to run the whole Presidential election over again, after determining which purged voters should not have been purged, so that they could also vote. And an election-day do-over is NEVER going to happen. The equal protection implications of that (or of letting people vote and have their votes counted after-the-fact) would be far worse than anything Florida did in the purge.

[robbedvoter]

16. backroom deals. And the usual democratic fear of taking stands.

I have the whole sorry thing on tape. To show my kid who the heroes and the cowards were. never get over it. NEVER !