historian
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:34 PM
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yee haa pissed off a fundie today |
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told him that history shows christianity as being the most brutal,oppressive religious hierarchy ever. xtians have spent most of their 2000yr history in persecuting and killing those who dont agree. Usual cliched answer we did it to save souls. Where does jesus say that? Go forth and kill so they may be saved? No but the bible says - never mind the bible you believe in jesus and its his words you should follow. Besides let me point out a fact to you. At the time of the moorish conquests in spain (had to tell him who the moors were - doesnt believe they existed arent listed in the bible)moorish cities had clean running water and sewer systems. Their schools taught science, reading and writing, while the xtian cities bred filth, ignorance, intolerance and hatred. Moorish cities allowed anyone to live with them as long as they didnt cause trouble. Xtian cities would have jews and others who thought differently, placed in the rack or burned at the stake. And where does jesus say that religious leaders should live in splendor (pope and falwell for example) while the rest of us slowly die of malnutrition? Isnt that kind of behavior something jesus condemmed? And i dont believe jesus said anything about judging others being a good thing. well by this time i could see him envisioning me at the stake.
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:35 PM
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:36 PM
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"lest ye be judged." See, all the stuff Jesus said was great, fundamentalists are just asswipes.
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:36 PM
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3. fun isnt it?? evil but fun |
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:38 PM
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4. good job. I read once that the new testament was re written by various |
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people with various political agendas 5000 times. Could that even be true?
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:42 PM
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5. One of my fave counters to raging fundimentalists |
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(and I have been confronted by numbers of them) is Luke 6:30.
Luke 6:30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
It is a simle act to have them read this bit and then start asking them for things. I have only met one fundimentalist that agreed to give me what I asked for(I did not take it). The typical response is to go defensive and seak an escape route as fast as possible.
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:45 PM
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6. This fundie then went on to his friends |
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and told them Satan appeared to him today!
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merh
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Wed Jul-14-04 08:50 PM
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7. Next time you run into your freeper - tell him that something he |
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said made your come to fully appreciate a text from the new testament. In response to his killing to save souls simply point out that when Jesus was arrested and knew he was about to be put to death, he didn't fight and he would not allow his disciples to fight (one actually cut off the ear of the high priests servant).
Jesus told them then "Put your sword back in its place," "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
These creepy fundies forgot some of the most important passages from the book they claim to follow so devotedly. Jesus was a liberal!
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Matthew 26
51Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him. With that, one of Jesus' companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. 52"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:00 PM
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8. Is a fundie a fundamentalist or a John Fund devotee |
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seriously- - what is that? same as a freeper?
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merh
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:04 PM
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Fundie as I have used it is a religious fundamentalist. Freeper is a different sort, hard to describe. They frequent FR though.
Welcome to DU - :hi:
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:13 PM
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11. John Fund is the reptilian WSJ columnist who beat up his |
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girlfriend(her mother was his ex). He's on Soft ball occasionally
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merh
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:45 PM
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16. Sounds like a creep. I don't enjoy the WSJ - they |
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have that slanted, corporate twist to their "truths".
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:47 PM
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Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 09:54 PM by merh
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historian
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:50 PM
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18. same deplorable lack of mental agility |
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:08 PM
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10. "We Did It To Save Souls"... |
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Hmmm. How about I come over to this guys' house, eat all the food in his fridge, empty out his bank account, corrupt his daughters, spill beer on his couch as I watch porno until 4 AM, then burn the place down as I'm leaving?
Hey! I did it to help you, you thankless bastard!
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:23 PM
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13. It's kinda like Iraq.... |
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.... we kill 10,000 + people, blow the cities to hell - all to save them from one tinpot dictator.
If this is heaven give me hell.
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:20 PM
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12. A typical fundie response would be: |
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"How do you know all that happened if you didn't see it or hear it yourself." They have been taught to deny anything they personally haven't witnessed. Seriously, I was asked that about Cheney's swearing at Leahy. I usually make a comment that makes them look stupid, like "I can't see gravity either, but I know it exists."
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:27 PM
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14. Fundies don't like it when you tell them that Jesus |
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Wed Jul-14-04 09:41 PM
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15. I love to bring up with fundies |
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The passage where Christ says "Give to God that which is Gods, and give to Caeser that which is Caesers" (or words to that effect). A GREAT argument for the separation of church and state.
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