"Sy Hersh says the US govt. has videotapes of boys being sodomized"

[Stargleamer]

"at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq."

I have heard about such abuse in earlier DU threads, but this is the 1st time I've heard Seymour Hersh talk about it. Not that earlier accounts were unreliable, but if the Pulitzer Prize-winning, My Lai Massacre-exposing muckracker Sy Hersh has heard it for himself, it may bear more weight to it.

The worst is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking," the reporter told an ACLU convention last week. Hersh says there was "a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."

<http://radio.weblogs.com/0107946/2004/07/14.html>

If this is a dupe, then delete.

[Must_B_Free]

1. not just a dupe

it's a super dupe

[ClassWarrior]

2. But that's okay, because we need to keep reminding people of this.

For the kids.

[Swamp Rat]

18. like me... "Tanks Spanky!"

[LibertyorDeath]

3. " it may bear more weight to it."

Excuse my English but this is

One Heavy MF..... Sy & The New Yorker have the Goods of

this group of Criminal Slime & they are waiting for the moment

that it will be utterly Devastating to * election.

Then they will give them Both Barrels. IMO

[ClassWarrior]

4. Let's hope so...

n/t

[LibertyorDeath]

11. Well it really seemed to me that

There was just so much more he KNOWS & has Proof of.

It must wait for the right time.

It was the same when I saw him on Charlie Rose he is

sitting on a powder keg IMO

and if god forbid something should happen to him I'm sure it will all come out in his absence.

[Guaranteed]

5. Sure would put a damper on their convention,

wouldn't it? }(

[LibertyorDeath]

8. A Proper New York Welcome!

Like the way you think.

[Ducks In A Row]

9. Their base doesn't care

it's all a laughing matter to them. In fact, their base is proud for what happened.

Sick lot, the bunch of them.


As for the swing vote, as long as it isn't happening to them, it's not real. So probably still won't matter.

Pessimist? Me?

[LibertyorDeath]

13. Maybe but their base is NOT America

The America I know is not ok with Child Sexual Torture

Ever!

No way

No How

EVER!

[calimary]

37. That's true. That part of the base that approves of this is a minority.

It's the radical fundie crowd. Most of America was sucker-punched about this. It's just faded from the public consciousness, unfortunately. This would certainly move it back to the front row again, though. I wish this would come out.

As one of our esteemed DUers put it: "I said I wanted ALL the pictures released. I've paid for this, whether I wanted it to happen or not. Let me see what I got for my money. Because I want some people to pay for doing this in my name."- DUer gratuitous, 5/21/04

(Just thought that was really one GANGBUSTER quote. I kept it. And I've used it. Because it's just spot-on.)

[JSJ]

6. nothing like lurid pornosexual paedo-torture pics...

...to warm the hearts and dull the dullard minds of Bush, his staff and his top military aides. Why else the pics, anyway? This was porn made to order and most likely for consumption by administration officials and their pedophobic friends in low places.

[clu]

7. hm

a nice side effect is to piss off arabs & risk another terror attack.

someone has to turn the other cheek.

[JSJ]

10. not til justice be done, and you're not allowed to volunteer...

...a cheek other than your own. Turn yours if you want- the children await justice, not cheaply exploited parables.

[ClassWarrior]

12. AMEN.

FOR THE CHILDREN.

[clu]

15. uh

maybe we should when there's another terrorist attack

[ClassWarrior]

16. Oh, there's always gonna be another terrorist attack...

...according to these thugs. FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! Don't do the right thing - BE AFRAID!!!

Get a clue, Clu.

[JSJ]

17. myself, i've got several 'terrorist attacks a'comin' penciled in before...

...breakfast, today. I sure am afeared about it, too.

[clu]

21. heh

when you're raping children it wouldn't surprise me. in fact i would suspect that's the admin's plan.

[Old and In the Way]

23. One could ask why this administration spent so much time

discussing semantics about abuse, POW's etc. If I didn't know better, I'd say it wouldn't break Bush's heart to see a major attack against our troops, say in October, of this year. He'll ignore the warnings on this, too. Because a major attack against our troops will be Bush desparately needs another 9/11 moment. And the elect-Bush message will be reinforced by extreme patriotic rhetoric and fearmongering by the Corporate Media that empowers him.

[iconoclastic cat]

28. The goal of the vids was to terrify the families of detainees at Abu Graib

As in, "Talk or we're coming for you and your kids. He's what we'll do to them."

[FredScuttle]

14. The reverse "October Surprise"

Huzzah for Sy Hersh

[Swamp Rat]

19. "... and higher."

Bush

[Cheneys_former_heart]

20. Man, you pray that is not true, but I fear it is

The sickness of torturing children so the parent will "confess" is too disgusting for thought. My God, I want my America back, and I can't stomach the fact that these sick fucks are running it.

[not systems]

22. Trade for the Whoopi tapes and see which plays on the 6 OClock...

news.

Bush the sadist enabler vs Kerry with "hollywood" friends.

[DaveSZ]

24. "Most important election since 1860"

I agree with him 100%.

I don't know that Kerry will be any better though.

Hersh:

Bush vs. Bush

[iconoclastic cat]

32. Really? You don't know?

Wow. That's very interesting. You don't know if Kerry will be any better than a president who presides of the the rape of imprisoned children. Care to tell us what exactly leads you to this opinion?

[louis c]

35. Too many folks won't participate until there's a perfect world

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'll work for a better world and hope, some day, it becomes perfect.

[Sugarbleus]

25. Hoo boy, what a trade off...

You give us the torture videos/photos and we'll let you watch Whoopi.....

I wish somebody would actually propose that, I'd love to see the reaction. :evilgrin:

[Guaranteed]

26. How about "BABY SODOMIZERS" on a sign

at the Repuke Convention?

I think it would be a good replacement for "baby killer," which has become a little un-P.C.

I hereby take credit for "baby sodomizers." It's mine.

[rooboy]

27. Konservative Kiddie Fiddlers. n/t

[jmowreader]

29. Baby Sodomizers is too long

I like "child rapists" myself.

As in "Would you support a president who condones CHILD RAPE?"

[LittleApple81]

30. I watched the video last night. You should. n/t

[Guaranteed]

31. Where would we find it? nt

[iconoclastic cat]

33. Vid link:

It's an .rm file:
http://stream.realimpact.net/?file=clients/aclu/conf2004/20040707_aclu_AmericaAtACrossroads_300.rm

More at Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/14/193750/666

[LittleApple81]

34. I had some difficulty with one of the links provided last night. So

I went to the ACLU directly:
http://www.aclu.org/2004memberconf

Select July 7th; it starts around 1:07 hours into video.

You have a choice between realPlayer and WindowsMediaPlayer.

[wicket]

36. bleh

This makes me want to :puke: