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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:59 AM
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Only criminals wouldn't want a microchip in their skin
clearly, the only personwho would seek to avoid this protection is someone who is trying to hide his actions. Therefore all people who refuse the chip are traitors to the state. Plus it will facilitate the nationwide evaluation of mental health. *

*coming soon to a propaganda outlet near you!

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taxidriver Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:35 AM
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1. michael savage said only criminals should be afraid of the patriot act
and then some old school conservative called in and was like "imagine the patriot act under an ultraliberal..."

and he was silent. i suppose everyone has their limits.
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taxidriver Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:36 AM
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2. when, by the way, did you hear about the microchips? my dog had to haveone
but i havent heard of people getting them. that would be really creepy if that started happening.,
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:37 AM
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3. it is happening
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 01:47 AM by Must_B_Free
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xocolatl Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:38 AM
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4. I wouldn't even implant a chip in my dog
... and I love her!!!
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taxidriver Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:40 AM
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we had to do it when we moved. dammit.
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taxidriver Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:40 AM
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7. we had to do it when we moved. dammit.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 07:23 AM
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19. Me neither.
Not gonna happen.
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8-Ball Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:38 AM
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5. What is this about microchip implantation?
Sounds very scary.
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xocolatl Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:39 AM
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6. Don't worry, it's voluntary. For now. n/t
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8-Ball Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:40 AM
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8. What do these microchips do?
Is it for identification purposes?
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xocolatl Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:43 AM
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11. Yes...
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:42 AM
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9. Hannity supports them.
That's all you need to know.
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xocolatl Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:46 AM
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12. For another opinion on RFID...
See this article.
:scared: :tinfoilhat: :scared: :tinfoilhat: :scared:
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:42 AM
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10. do we let criminals define who is and isn't a criminal? not here! n/t
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 02:29 AM
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13. Yeah, maybe they can come up with a version of the chip...
... that can shock the shit out of you when you say a naughty word.

Wait... I'm getting a vision of the future... Oh God! It's horrible... it really will be as cheasy as in Demolition Man! Where's the sewer dwelling Dennis Leary when you need him.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 02:37 AM
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14. There will be a black market for reprogrammed chips and
back alley chip removal.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:02 AM
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22. and don't forget the criminals
who will capture wealthier citizens and read all their financial data from the chip.... the new form of the criminals who lurk around atm's
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 02:52 AM
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15. Currently the marketing is to parents and pet owners...
...in case little Janie or Fluffy wanders away. Or possibly Grandpa when he grows increasingly forgetful.

Other potential uses mentioned are as an electronic "dogtag" for military personnel: name etc. plus medical history. Of course that begs the question of field medics carrying a scanner, but it's early days.

I think when it's marketed as a protective device for the young or helpless it will gain acceptance and respectability pretty readily.

I have grave misgivings about the widespread use of implanted microchips, however. We're losing the last shreds of our privacy and anonymity: I don't even really like the thought of GPS becoming standard in cars, unless one has the option of disconnecting the damn thing.

Hekate
who's becoming a 21st century Luddite
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 04:15 AM
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18. I am so totally in agreement with you!! I used to work in a
place that started making and marketing this type of technology out west here. Eventually, the technology was bought out by a company in Wisconsin. Allen Bradley.

The company I was working with in the 80's had started their idea based on keeping track of livestock...it was rudimentary at first. Then these folks went on to other applications such as coding devices placed into cars and trucks...in long haul trucks so they could pass over a reading device in the weigh stations and have the transmitter read the cargo...saved time blah blah. Then this company talked about where this tech was going next: the military! We had already been introduced to grocery scanners..the whole thing is along those lines anyway but on a much smaller device with MORE info crammed on to the "chips" and cards. Notice the magnetic strips on your driver's licenses and grocery swipe discount cards; all those things hold all sorts of data on you and keep track of what you buy "just for future reference"..hmmm

We've got the fast track passes that commuters use when they travel to work over toll roads and bridges. Of course theres the GPS you mentioned. Again, the military does use these identification systems for all sorts of purposes; even something as simple as a thin card they hold in their pockets so they can drive onto base without having to be stopped and personally identified. Don't know about post 9/11.

It's out there folks. It's intrusive. The technology is capable of tracking everything you do, buy, everywhere you go, how much money you have the whole enchilada. It's not good. The whole big brother thingy has crept up on us without us realizing how intrinsic it is in our everyday lives. Kinda like putting a frog into cold water and slowing turning up the heat. It's here. We are under survellience at their will.

I don't want any part of it, but I fear I've already sold out by just using my grocery card!! Yipes :hangover:

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 03:03 AM
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16. I'd really love to see
someone or some governmental entity try to microchip me. I'd really like to see it.

They can TRY. That's as far as they'll get.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 03:05 AM
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17. Warning: If you try to put a "microchip" in my body, or in my children's
bodies, or in my dog's body, it will be extremely hazardous to your health.

This is a promise.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 07:25 AM
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20. Guess I've been found me out. I'm a criminal of the future
biding my time...
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 07:38 AM
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21. And retinal scan
linked to your bank accounts and all books on computer only. (burn the hard copies along with the evil cash)

Yes our good citizens "WE" will protct you from all evils.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:11 AM
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23. Get yer "Read-Only Dual Dipole Generic Plastic Tag" here,
made by the good folks at Matrics, a proud member of the military industrial complex since 1999.

"Matrics was founded in July 1999 by Dr. William Bandy and Michael Arneson. Bill and Mike had worked for decades as scientists at the National Security Agency (NSA) developing cutting-edge wireless computing technologies. Based in a quiet suburb of Washington DC, Matrics was created with a vision to revolutionize the logistics and supply chain processes by deploying breakthrough RFID systems."
http://www.matrics.com/about /

I'm sure the resemblance is merely coincidental. But Nazis get under my skin.



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xocolatl Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:13 AM
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24. OMG, I thought the image was a tongue-in-cheek graphic!
But it's from the Matrics site!

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:18 AM
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25. And if that wasn't scary enough, Matrics is now owned by none other than..
...The Carlyle Group :scared:

And if the Bush Criminal Empire owns the company making these tags, you can bet that what they have in mind for them resembles exactly what is described in Revelation 13.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:22 AM
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27. holey moley!
I didn't know that.

They have their claws in every frickin' wicked thing.
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xocolatl Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:22 AM
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28. Speaking of which....
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:48 AM
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32. oops...didn't see your post...
...before I made mine.
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Romulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:45 AM
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30. look at these other tags
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 08:45 AM by Romulus
These are the three other tags advertised by the company:










The first two are obviously creepy, but the last one looks like one of those runes the SS used to mark everywhere (saw that on the History Channel) :wtf:
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:19 AM
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26. I'm A Criminal Then n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:26 AM
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29. All Americans Are Criminals
A friend of mine in law enforcement who once worked as a lawyer said that everyone either has committed or will commit a felony during their lives, whether they realize it or not at the time. Most people are unaware of most of the laws, and laws are selectively enforced, so there's a chance that you can go your whole life without realizing that you are a felon. Cool, huh?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:46 AM
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31. (real) christians know these chips as "666".



Revelation 13
15He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.



8A second angel followed and said, "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries."
9A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.



You think YOU"RE scared? I'm just amazed the religious right is glossing over this.
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