Kerry: "It’s simple for the president to joke about very serious issues

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

...when young kids are dying because he didn’t make the plan to win the peace in Iraq. And I take that very personally as somebody who fought in a war, which he chose not to, that saw leaders make bad decisions. That’s what happened. And leaders didn’t tell the truth to the American people. So it means something to me.

Now, when the president gets us into Iraq and refuses to bring the allies to the table, refuses to do what’s necessary in terms of diplomacy and statesmanship to share the burden, when you, Don Imus, and every other taxpayer in America are paying billions of dollars to open firehouses in Iraq while we’re shutting them in the United States, as well as all the other things that are being wrapped up in that money, John Edwards and I both thought, “Rather than just dumping another $87 billion into this wrongly headed policy, let’s get it right.”

It’s very simple. And we voted to get it right.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5442895/

[RubyDuby in GA]

1. Should have ended with

SO THERE!
Childish...sure, but appropriate as it's ridiculous for Bush to even try to question Kerry on this matter.

[Jacobin]

2. So, Kerry's gonna "do it 'right'"?

MAJOR>>>> :eyes:

This is scaring the crap out of me.

We will NEVER EVER be welcome in IraqNam. NEVER.

It is a mistake of epic proportions to have invaded that country and to continue to try to repress them as westerners will never ever work in a million years.

Gawd I hate this shit.

[sangh0]

3. Would you prefer

that Kerry "do it wrong"?

[Jacobin]

5. What I am suggesting is

that there IS no "right way" to invade, conquer and occupy a muslim country, and particularly Iraq.

I don't want to see another "LBJ" situation. I lived through the last one.

It ain't fun.

[sandnsea]

9. There IS a right way

to have a true world mandate with Arab cooperation so that it isn't an occupation at all. A world mandate where leaders of small countries are seen all over Iraq, speaking to the people about democracy, instead of an American Czar. There's plenty of ways this could be done right, even now. Iraq isn't Vietnam, the Vietnamese never flew airplanes into our buildings or bombed our embassies all over the world. And no, the Iraqi's didn't either, but the terrorists who are there now have been part of that activity and would like to do it again in the future.

[TeacherCreature]

10. I think you just stepped through the looking glass

Now you are giving the Democratic party version of PNAC. You think if you use different words suddenly Imperialism will be acceptable to people all over the world? Our "empire" is going to be the shortest in History unless democrats wake up and stop being as fatally stupid as republicans. There is no better way to do this.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

19. Your post is nothing but a dishonest deceptive smear.

Rather than address the substance of the post your responded to, you've simply insulted the other poster with about the most offensive and inflammatory smear possible on DU.


Why don't you skip the insults and try actually responding to post 9?

[sandnsea]

25. World cooperation is US imperialism???

Some days I don't know whether the left or the right pisses me off more.

[Jacobin]

15. Good luck with your war

Conflating Iraq with Osama is something I would expect to see elsewhere.

Have a nice life.

BTW, you are right Iraq is not Vietnam. Iraq is MUCH MUCH worse.

(what do you do when you try to impose a democracy on a country at the point of a gun barrel and the citizens of that country don't want it?)

[jackstraw45]

17. What do you think Vietnam was about?

There are no BETTER wars. It's not a competition.

[sandnsea]

24. I didn't do that

Nice try though.

[emulatorloo]

22. If bush had done it "right," there would have been no invasion

given inspectors time, gone to the un etc,

No WMDs found, no invasion.

You act as if Kerry is saying we just need Bigger Bombs

He is saying let diplomacy run its course. War only as a last resort. That is what doing it right means

[Monte Carlo]

27. Then there's a least among the bad ways, isn't there?

Whether you think that means total withdrawl ASAP or not, there's still a choice to be made, and who are you going to trust more to make it, Bush or Kerry?

[jedicord]

7. Kerry's talking about their vote on the $87 billion bill for Iraq

This is his explanation for why they voted against it. They felt the plan was insufficient, should be tweaked.

Good answer, to me. Wish he had looked a little harder at the resolution to go to war, though.

[sendero]

21. Kerry is a politician...

.... it is not going to play in Peoria to say "pull out now".

My guess is when he wins the Presidency, he'll first garner international support and he'll be working on an exit strategy - one that will include real stabilization.

Anything is better than sending Halliburton $10 billion a month and throwing pennies into a wishing well. Let's give him the benefit of a doubt.

[TA]

4. Thanks for the post. It covers a Don Imus interview with Kerry

and Edwards. Imus states that he is behind Kerry/Edwards but still asks some good pointed questions. I kept thinking how would Bush respond/answer these type of questions.

[Donkeyboy75]

8. "Freedom. He hates 'Murica. Stay the course."

Am I missing any other soundbites? * never answers the questions

[TNOE]

6. Now THAT's what I'm talkin about

still a GREAT response from Kerry! He knows his base wants us out of Iraq - one thing at a time. First matter of business - BUSH MUST GO!

[RichM]

11. Kerry is not "telling the truth to the American people" about Iraq, either

His differences with Bush on Iraq are small-bore -- mere quibbling on details. His yak about "getting it right" is ridiculous. It's like complaining about how deck chairs were arranged on the Titanic.

[BeFree]

13. Yeah, Kerry, tell the truth!

And watch your chance to be elected evaporate overnight.

Yeah, we don't need Kerry. Boosh is just fine. Why, it's fun attacking Kerry, and Dems, and all our friends. <end sarcasm>

[emulatorloo]

23. Your misinterpretation

doing it right is letting diplomacy take its course let the inspectors do their job.


If bush had done it right, then there would have been no invasion.

No WMDs, no justification

But he rushed in.

[sandnsea]

26. Telling the truth about the Titanic

More like. That no ship is unsinkable.

Not running a ship on its first voyage at full speed.

You know, doing it right so the Titanic wouldn't have hit that ice berg in the first place.

[TeacherCreature]

12. Will someone please teach Kerry how to speak?

He is incomprehensible in his sentence structure. It must come from years of making sure no one could every pin him down on specifics.
If he is going to win this he is going to have to speak to people who can't or don't feel like following him down the maze of choppy syntax he is so adept at using.

[midnight armadillo]

16. I don't see what you do

I understand what's he saying fine - what's wrong with his syntax? So it isn't textbook. So what?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

20. Incomprehensible? In other words, you don't understand what he said?

Is that true? You really didn't understand him?

I find that very, very hard to believe. In fact, my belief is that you had absolutely no difficulty understanding him at all, lol.

[ElementaryPenguin]

14. Kerry ads should be showing Bush looking under table for WMD's

Big fucking joke to brain dead AWOL! Press would have slaughtered Kerry/Gore/Dean/Clinton - had they done the same!

[RetroLounge]

18. The pretending time is over

KERRY: Well, you know, that’s a problem, some of these things are a little complicated. They like to simplify them and pretend to America. The pretending time is over.

Very nice!

RL