Guy on Fox News just said "Al Qaeda may have seven suitcase nukes in US.."

[Syrinx]

"... But we don't want to scare anyone."

WTF?

[Brotherjohn]

1. And monkeys might fly out of my... OH NEVERMIND!

[Parche]

2. nukes

And he made them all in his secret bat cave?


Will they use those radio controlled air vehicles to drop them?

[Roon]

12. Nope

A suicide pilot in a cessna detonating one over a city will do very nicely.

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[newyawker99]

49. Hi mentalmidget!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[joefree1]

3. I think that was supposed to be "several nut cases in suits at Fox"

And then I would agree.

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. *lmbo* You got it right! Ya know, the CIA could use a

good mind like yours. *g*

[lumberingbear]

8. LOL

Good one Joefree1 !!!!

[Ducks In A Row]

4. And we are safer

cause bushie says so.

[gasperc]

32. eight times

we are safer
we are safer
we are safer
we are safer
we are safer
we are safer
we are safer
we are safer

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. Isn't making unfounded statements like this

along the same lines has yelling 'fire' in a movie theatre?

[bluestateguy]

6. "which is why we need to stay the course in Iraq."

:eyes:

[Guaranteed]

31. And spend billions on Star Wars. nt

[teach1st]

9. It's a good thing we have the National Guard...

...oh wait, many of them aren't around. They're in Iraq.

[Nile]

10. There was some ex FBI guy that wrote a book...

saying the same thing. I just read about that somewhere the other day but can not remember where. Must be a senior moment happening.

[Mz Pip]

11. Too bad no one

from Fox tesitified at the 9/11 hearings and reported this. We need to know where they are so we can be made safer. <sarcasm>

How come Fox knows stuff no one else does? Do they have a special link to Al Qaida?

MzPip
:dem:

[kentuck]

13. Seven ???

Now where did they get that number...I heard it was 11??? And I heard most of them were going to be near FOX news stations?? Strange how these rumors get started? What could they possibly be getting such information?? I hope they are passing their tips onto Homeland Security? Wouldn't want them to be holding onto secrets like their favorite politician, Dick Cheney....

[Beware the Beast Man]

40. This is just a sneak preview of next season's "24"

Almost exact same premise, except it was bio weapons, not suitcase nukes.

[kayell]

14. But we're safer

America is safer...
the American people are safer...
and the American people are safer...
the American people are safer...
the American people are safer....
the American people are safer...
and the American people are safer...
and America and the world are safer....

* told me so. Over and over and over again.

[Jacobin]

15. "But don't worry, Asscroft will find them before the sElection"?

Cartoon news.

[Guaranteed]

16. Just some guy, eh?

Hope it wasn't George Tenet or something.

[aden_nak]

17. I like the use of the word "may" there.

I mean, after all, I "may" have spent the weekend slapping Rupert Murdoch around with a splintered 2x4. I didn't, but until I told you for sure it was at least a (fond) possibility. By the same token, John Kerry's election "may" cause Osama bin Laden to simply turn himself in. It probably won't. . . but you don't hear them pushing that story, either. :P

[Vogon_Glory]

18. Suitcase Nukes And GOP Budget Priorities

If there are any suitcase nukes, that goes to show the priorities of the Republican-controlled Congresses dictating legislation and passing budgets when it came to keeping tabs on fissile materials from the old Soviet Union, doesn't it?

If this Faux tale is actually true, the GOP deserves a world of blame--for their actions in the past in allowing this to happen, and for being so slack as to allow such a situation to come up.

[ibegurpard]

19. The Big One might finally hit California tomorrow.

So? And what are we supposed to do about it? I wish people would finally wake up to the sensationalistic fearmongering that the media engages in and the Bush administration takes full advantage of.

[hatrack]

20. "Urban Legends True, Says Friend Of This Guy" - another Onion classic

nt

[Wapsie B]

21. But I thought chimpy made us safer.

If we're so safe, why are they talking about postponing the elections?

Pass it on.

[OKNancy]

22. But, then again, they may not

this is nuts.

[The_Casual_Observer]

23. Then again they may have none.

But just in case they do, we had better forget all about this John Kerry for President stuff and support our president!:eyes:

[PragMantisT]

24. Of course, there may be NONE in the US as well.

May is a helluva word!

[Snoggera]

25. Or they may have butterflies and flowers and candy for the children

Since it's questionable whether they actually exist at all, then, yes, I can see that they MAY have almost anything at all in those imaginary suitcases that were probably stolen from those lackadaisical Russians.

Maybe.

[kentuck]

26. But seriously, if they do not have a credible source for such a story....

They should be fined and reprimanded. There is a certain responsibility that comes with their license to broadcast. To spread rumors about possible suitcase bombs in the country, with a specific number of seven, goes beyond the bounds of legitimate journalism. Where's the FCC when you need them?

[Guaranteed]

30. It's an awful like yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre, isn't it?

Somebody should be put in jail for that shit if it doesn't actually HAPPEN- not just a "credible source." You say something like that and you'd better be willing to bet your livelihood/life on it.

[kentuck]

35. I agree. That is some serious shit...

What would be the difference if someone called in and said there was a suitcase bomb in Denver or someplace, and no one knows where it is, but there might be more in other cities? It would be taken very seriously, I would think?

[LuminousX]

46. A helpful source of info

http://www.techcentralstation.com/040804D.html

[jackstraw45]

27. www.outfoxed.org

Simple as that....

[jeanmarc]

28. What was the guy's name?

Inquiring minds want to know so that they can blast him!

[hatrack]

29. Al-Qaeda has secret time machine, will go back, heal Stonewall Jackson

Then, when the North loses, the terrorists can claim victory!!

[soup]

34. Has that been verified by credible sources?

I heard they MAY have a time machine... :crazy:

[hatrack]

37. Yes - James Dobson and Tim LaHaye were talking about it on the radio!

It's just GOT to be true!!

[Wind Dancer]

39. LOL!

Good one, hatrack!

[PA Democrat]

42. Tim LaHaye must be rushing to finish his Left Behind series

of books. He'll want to make as much money as possible before the rapture.

[Warren DeMontague]

33. Wow. With such a menacing threat, it's no wonder that

The Justice Dept. is, as we speak, working overtime to keep us safe from Oregon's Assisted Suicide Law.

That terminally ill guy with horribly painful bone cancer- stop him from taking those pills, he might explode!

[Minstrel Boy]

36. And check out the ready-made spin here! It will be Clinton's fault

when the suitcases explode.

Fox and others (essentially "private contractors" of "homeland security" like http://www.homelandsecurityus.com) are feeding the right a steady diet of this red meat. If - when - this babies blow, the spin is in place. And it won't be pretty. It's Clinton's fault. (Even as the author of this piece - Sean Osborne, Network Analyst for the "Northeast Intelligence Network" - praises Bush, he says Clinton "borders on treason.")

Here's Osborne:

Third, to the specifics... Information I came into back in February of 2004 was not 20 nuclear weapons, but between 35 and 40 weapons on US soil. The Nuke search teams so publicly deployed last Christmas/New Years holiday season remain as the primary indicator of how seriously Uncle Sam regarded this information. Kudo's to the administration of george W. Bush for taking concrete actions in response to the threat.

I also received other direct and corroborative information from a source who worked within US and NATO nuclear planning. I was told point blank that the US lost the handle on foreign nuclear weapons back in 1993 - and we still have not re-gained the full capability of accounting for enemy warheads.

I view Mr. Williams admission in his book and on FoxNews as corroboration of both of my sources as far as the information goes that indeed enemy tactical nuclear weapons are currently on US soil awaiting deployment a order.

...

Beginning in 1993, when the Clinton Administration took office, the agenda consisted of the wanton and systematic gutting of American military capability and intelligence collection. So much so that before the end of that year the United States had "lost the handle" on accurate intelligence information on where enemy nuclear weapons were deployed and stored. According to my source we have to this date not re-acquired such intelligence capability and it might be some time before such capability is restored. This is, of course, assuming that we have the time to re-acquire such intelligence capabilities.

http://stevequayle.com/News.alert/04_Terror/040712.Paul.Williams.html

[porphyrian]

38. ...and microscopic invisible flying pigs may fly out of your butt...

...when you fart. If it's a real threat, I'm sure they'll be able to handle it. After all, the world is safer.

[zydeco]

41. I didn't graduate from high school and have

enough sense to realize it is not feasibly possible to have a nuclear
suitcase bomb. The more important question is why does anyone watch fox?

[TrogL]

53. They can put a nuclear bomb inside an artillery shell

Why not a suitcase.

[zydeco]

56. Not to be argumentative, however,

find me a credible link that can verify this or the reality of a suitcase bomb. I have searched all over and this is an urban legend to me until I am convinced. This is all part of the * doctrine of maintaining the sheeples fears.

[The Stranger]

59. Why not a Holy Hand Grenade?

"Having thus counted to the number three, and three having been the number counted, thou shalt hurl the Holy Hand Grenade and blow the enemy to bits. . . . "

[zbdent]

43. was that announced on Faux News, or was this a commercial for

its polar opposite, the Reality TV channel?

[rumguy]

44. Not even the freepers believe this

The 'suitcase nukes' made by the Soviets back in the 80s had a very short life-span and required a massive amount of upkeep...

Now it is still possible that AQ has somehow cobbled together some other suitcase-like small nuke, in fact I'm sure they are trying to do so...

But there aren't seven of them and they aren't all in the US....

[knitter4democracy]

45. There aren't that many missing

From what I heard when I studied in Russia (granted, in Fall '95), there were only 3-5 missing. The rest the government knew the whereabouts of. I'd be surprised if as many as seven were entirely missing and all were in the States.

Of course, there is also the legitimate question of whether they even work . . . Apparently, they weren't tested after they were developed.

[Wilber_Stool]

47. Just seven?

There might be 12. Or there could be 45. And were might they be? Well look at a list of all of the cities in the country.

[Solly Mack]

50. Are they color-coded?

matching?

I do so hate tacky terrorists.

[The Stranger]

57. Samsonite? Hartmann? American Tourister?

or a designer brand?

[dansolo]

51. If they had them, they would have already set them off.

Exploding a suitcase nuke is not like simultaneously hijacking four airliners. There is no need for excessive planning and coordination. If a suitcase nuke really was smuggled into the US, it would very likely be detonated as soon as it could be brought to a desired area. Waiting around would only increase the likelyhood of being caught.

[Minstrel Boy]

52. Depends a great deal upon who "they" are, and how convenient

the timing of a blast may be for their sponsors.

[Bluebear]

54. May have seven....not five,, not eight.....seven. Please.

[TrogL]

55. With my tinfoil hat firmly in place

:tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:

How's this for an election scenario.

1. Start the "suitcase nuke" meme.
2. Push the "Spanish election" meme.
3. The day before the election, fire off a nuke somewhere and blame it on "terrorists".
4. Announce "only Republicans can save you from the terrorists".
5. Disrupt election voting as per BBV and Florida 2000.

[Bluebear]

58. So maybe they set one off in Palm Beach....

on Election day, then say, oh oh, "chatter" had it there are six more! Fox news has learned they might be in LA, San Francisco, etc....

[KansDem]

60. Snopes has information about similar story...(the number "7" again!!!)

Just how similar?

(snip)
The article quoted above gained prominence when it appeared on the web site of the Asia Times on 15 November 2002. Purportedly taken from an interview with a "Mohammed al-Usuquf," said to be the #3 man in the al-Qaeda terrorist network, the article alarmed many readers with revelations such as the claim that al-Qaeda has had nuclear weapons in place in seven large American cities for over a year and is merely waiting for the right time to detonate them.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/nukes.htm

Snopes says this story is false.

However, just how difficult would it be for FoxNews whores to dust off this urban legend and add a "new twist" by making the seven nuclear bombs of the "suitcase variety?"

It seems the number "7" is popular in stories about nuclear bombs and mid-east terrorists...

[demwing]

61. They may also have suicide squirrels with radioactive nuts

infiltrating your neighborhood park.

shee-it.

[NuttyFluffers]

62. cool, now i know who to blame

if anything happens like that i'll blame FOX news very loudly and scream for the complete and utter destruction of all their assets brick-by-brick. if they know something so sensitive like that, before eveyone else, and won't share/assist/demand USA gov't to save us then i shall directly pin the blame on them.

sure, let them say that. let them know they'll have a national riot against them if they directly exposed us to harm and deliberately left us helpless.

hmm, complete and utter destruction, hmm. 'k, fine, you can scare us, but we people can scare right back. if this ever happens it's THEIR ASS that gets thrown into the ocean. 'k, go ahead, mutual assured destruction, let's see how successful this game can be played... let's see if they have the balls for the next move now that they are going to be held responsible for their actions/inactions.

[jeanmarc]

63. nevermind, found the nutjob(Paul Williams)

Once again, Faux News finds an unimpeachable source, some nutjob that did a story for newsmax as well. He's selling books:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/14/215350.shtml

The books sell, Faux news scares and misinforms, and America watches the dopes because they think they know more than the others. What a completely fucked up conjob.