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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:30 PM
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Did you hear the guest (Dan Savage) on Al Franken talking to
a woman who was opposed to gay marriage? When he confronted her with direct questions, she became all tongue-tied.... Al cut the interview because it was becoming too cruel to the woman.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:32 PM
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1. missed it but I love Dan Savage
n/t
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:33 PM
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2. heheh
yeah, he was great. What a dumbass woman. Al's too nice - he should've let Dan eviscerate her.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:35 PM
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7. Seperation of church and state was Al's "opinion"
She didn't think that there really was a seperation and that we are a christian nation.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:36 PM
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8. Wasn't that AMAZING? IGNORANCE is what drives the fundies.n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:42 PM
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10. I was partly shocked and party not shocked
I guess I have heard that argument from wingnuts before but I guess not enough to have it NOT surprise me, I guess.

:wow:
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:33 PM
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3. It is just a man / woman thing with her and no arguments were going
to change her mind. I thought everyone was nice to each other. How unlike RW radio.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:34 PM
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4. Ignorance is the biggest problem that this country faces
People need to become educated on the issues and actually get out and meet people different than themselves

Thats the feeling I got with this lady...she had no idea about the constitution and a legal definition of marriage. Kinda sad really
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:34 PM
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5. It seemed like she was against SSM because "it's what all good
republicans should be against."

When she had to actually stop and think about reasons for supporting her side of the debate, it seemed that she either hadn't thought through the argument that she is supporting, or maybe a little embarrassed about having to support a policy that openly discriminates against fellow Americans.

Either way, she didn't sound very bright or informed.

Shocker.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:45 PM
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12. I wished Al/Dave would have asked her about mixed-race marriage,
and tied it to the current debate.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:35 PM
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6. Dan Savage is a good spokesman for our causes. And I'm indebted....
to him for coining "santorum".

:-)

Terry
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:37 PM
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9. I love that man
Unrequitedly, of course. Savage Love rocks.

Hey, Dan :loveya:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:44 PM
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11. she said something to the effect of. . .
"separation of church and state is just an interpretation of the law." Al said but people have been interpreting the law that way for hundreds of years. She said, "but I don't believe it's an accurate interpretation of the law. We are a Christian nation."


Arghhhhh. . .what do you do with this people. . .?
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:46 PM
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14. As Randi Rhodes said
Instead of amending the Consitution, lets amend the Bible to allow SSM and be done with it.

RL
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:56 PM
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17. Wing nuts pound that very opinion down here over and over....
"It doesn't say.... separation of church and state in the constitution.... so it's just a librul concept the yankees have foisted on us."

Also, "we're a Christian nation 'cause all them founders was Christians and only them librul yankee and Jew-types has been saying we're not a Christian nation."
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 02:04 PM
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20. When I hear the US was founded as "Christian nation"...
...I ask the fundies if we're the Christian nation that wrongly executed those of being witches or the Christian nation that relied on some obscure Bible passage to justify slavery.

Heads explode.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 02:29 PM
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21. Reference the Treat of Tripoli 1796, 1806


http://members.tripod.com/~candst/tripoli1.htm

<snip>

ARTICLE 11.

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

<snip>

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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:45 PM
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13. yep she showed how ignorant she was...
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 12:47 PM by AussieInCA
on civil rights..

on the constitution...

and her only argument

"I am woman and you're man..too bad"

(which can easily be substituted for oh lets see...)

"I am white and you're black"


Ignorant and a bigot...

I understand why Al ended the discussion..it was going to get ugly. Dan should of thrown that in her face to finish to stupid cow off.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:58 PM
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18. I wanted to slap the shit out of her.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:53 PM
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15. She was very cold...
despite her sweet little voice. I mean, really! How could anyone with a heart tell someone that their partner and six-year old child don't deserve any financial or legal protection?

It's not even stupidity. It's mean, pinched, smug, phony pious, self-righteous selfishness.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:01 PM
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16. "Did you hear the guest (Dan Savage) on Al Franken talking to"
Not much you can do with a lady like that. I mean she probably isn't a bad person she is just so isolated in own world. You basically heard her reguritate something she probably heard over and over in church.

Whats funny is that when Savage actually started to present real world examples, house ownership, medical decisions she froze. She probably hadn't even thought of that before... hmm maybe that will help turn on the lightbulb for her.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 02:58 PM
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22. Hi newportdadde!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 02:00 PM
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19. Just a little off topic.
I got to flirt with Dan Savage a few years ago. He was in town for our Gay Pride festival and stopped into the store where I worked at the time. He's a cutie in his slightly nerdy way.
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