King_Crimson
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:05 PM
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What's gonna happen when the number of American dead... |
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reaches 1,000? Will there be any significance to THAT? I mean...WHEN THE HELL ARE PEOPLE GONNA WAKE UP? This is NOT a WAR folks, for God's sake didn't Vietnam teach us ANYTHING? :mad:
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:10 PM
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1. People like you and I are going to scream |
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along with the others here who pay attention, the media will note it as an aside, maybe, just maybe the public will pay attention for five minutes then go on to the next celebrity scandal/murder. That's my guess.
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Goldmund
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:10 PM
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2. It'll happen before the election, no doubt... |
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Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 03:10 PM by slavkomae
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:14 PM
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3. i think it's already happened, |
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what with no reports on what becomes of the seriously wounded. you know a good number of those are not surviving.
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:18 PM
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5. That has been my question, |
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what happens to those who are wounded? Why is there absolutely no follow up? Much as we want to wish that they all make it it's just not possible.
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:19 PM
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6. I also thought it had happened already. |
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I remember reading a tiny little snippet in some paper about how we reached the number 1,000.
Scary how we consider our dead soldiers just a side note.
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Goldmund
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:24 PM
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7. It was 1,000 coalition casualties recently. |
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The original poster was talking about US casualties specifically.
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:25 PM
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wadestock
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:17 PM
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4. Yes, I believe that is significant..... |
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Russia gave up at 10,000 in Afghanistan after being there about 10 years....which works out to about 0.365 dead per day for 10 years. Of course there were really bad years and not so bad years...but that's the average.
Many people came away with the historic belief that it was our Stinger Missiles and the futility of military operations there from a strategic military standpoint...but from what I've read...it was very much to do with the never ending loss of lives...and the complete depression and lack of motivation that the troops had after this endless uncertainty of victory.
We have easily exceeded that rate....and have the exact same problem with a never ending expectation of casualties and uncertainty of "victory".
Our tolerance level will hopefully be much lower!!!!
I say stop at 875 or whatever right now!!!
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Goldmund
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:25 PM
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10. "which works out to about 0.365" |
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More like 3.65 per day :)
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:49 PM
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Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 03:51 PM by wadestock
10 years = 3650 days, 10,000 dead/ 3650 = 2.74 dead per day on average in the Russian Afghanistan conflict.....
2.74 is the actual number and it distresses me and I'm sure you that we talk such percentages of people's lives....
One would have to imagine that 3 years and 3000 to be completely unbearable when you think about it....but look at how relatively close we really are to something like that.
Like I said....the level now disgusts me....and I think it was "rationalized" as acceptable to the American public.
I look at it just the OPPOSITE way.....
IF YOU RATIONALIZE SOMEONE'S LIFE AWAY....IT MAKES IT 1 MILLION TIMES WORSE IN MY OPINION!!!!!
I'm sure we've all had that thought in the back of our minds....but perhaps it's something that ought to be brought a bit more into the public eye of moral debate....
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:25 PM
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8. Well, since the military doesn't count those "non-combat" deaths, |
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Such as vehicle accidents, suicides, medical conditions (some older soldiers have had heart attacks, etc.), or probably even "friendly fire", that keeps the official number a lot lower. Can't even begin to articulate the problems with that policy, how incredibly wrong it is...but I guess as long as the media buys into it, there's no hope it will change. I'd go further and say there's no hope, period, where Iraq is concerned, but once Bush is gone...well, there's my only glimmer of hope. Maybe if the AWOL coward had been in Vietnam, the lessons learned in that disaster would count for something. But he wasn't and so I'd say that for now, any lessons learned in Vietnam are too little too late.
Bush Must Go!!
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:26 PM
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11. Answers to yuour questions |
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Nothing. Not according to Imperial Pravda. When it's too late. We learned, but it didn't take, and was no match for $2,000,000,000 of Goebbels v2.0.
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:28 PM
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12. I heard on the news last week it'd surpassed 1,000. What's up with that? |
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Maybe the 1,000 includes the ones who supposedly didn't die as direct consequence of combat? I count them, too, though.
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:29 PM
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13. I thought we had already passed 1000 |
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the media changed the way they report the count. Now they are only reporting conflict related deaths and excluding accidents, etc.
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:31 PM
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14. Nothing will happen, nothing will change. |
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The media has long ago quit covering the casualties in any meaningful way. Their masters put an end to that. At best they slip in a half sentence about deaths in a broadcast. Last weekend a number of soldiers died and nary a peep from the media.
The public doesn't really seem to care. Pathetic.
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:44 PM
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16. If a soldier dies in Iraq and the media doesn't report it.......... |
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did it happen?
So damn sad the state of this country.
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Thu Jul-15-04 03:34 PM
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15. because the methods to hide our dead has been successful |
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through control over the media. No one is aware--it is not in paper how many have died and for lies. They are snuck in in the middle of tnight. Bush has not attended one funeral and has not hugged one familyh as he once bragged was his job.
I am on a personal crusade. I have a sandwich board in front of my house and each day I tack on that board the number of our dead, followed by RIP.
Today I wrote 889, RIP and then underneath I wrote "Bring em on" AWOL CIC
It is far cry from the reporting we saw in WWII, KOrea and most especially Vietnam.
There is something to hide here, and there was something to hide in Desert Storm. People are aware of a war going on, but are apathetic--all they know of it is what Bush wants them to know--that it is a great victory and Mission Accomplished--how low we have fallen. How low to accept this sleeze and slime and deliberatelyh holding back the truth from the American people.
This generation knows no better. They are too young to know of the reportage in WWII, or Vietnam. It is just the accepted norm to not have reporters reporting on the war--Bush's war. It is accepted that reporters be embedded or severely prohibited from any independant reporting. It is accepted and as such, the American people can continue on with the comfortable live and weekend bbq's
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Thu Jul-15-04 04:00 PM
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18. It Depends On Whether Britney Spears Spawns A Kid On The Same Day |
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then the media would have to cover that.
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