Premise: George W Bush uses an radio earpiece in Press Conference

[Chicago Democrat]

and will do so in debate...

Conclusion: In order to counter this "cheating" in debate, someone needs to JAM these radio signals at debate? Is this possible?

[dietdpfan]

1. You're evil....

I love it!

:evilgrin:

[Cerridwen]

2. Oh no, not jam . . .

they need to send "disinformation" through the wire.

Maybe they could prompt him into repeating all the truths he's been hiding.

[aden_nak]

4. Oooohhhhhh, I like that idea even more.

Who here can do a good impression of Cheney?

[TacticalPeek]

46. Doubt they'd use Pork Chop Boy.

Wouldn't want 'Shrub' to start cussing a blue streak after a Kerry barb.

:evilgrin:

[Chicago Democrat]

6. Superior idea, but we need real intelligence and multi-frequency

capability...Also would need to impersonate Dick Cheney or Scooter Libby or whatever wonky whore is on the other side.

[Cerridwen]

14. "Liar, Liar" . . . starring the shrub

makes me grin ear to ear.

:7

[wicket]

22. I like that idea!

:D

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[hippiegranny]

30. if you have to ask

you might not be very much at home here

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[Bridget Burke]

33. Prove it.

Where's your source?

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[Moonbeam_Starlight]

37. Yeah I'd like that too

cough up your proof. I'd like to know who has worn an earpiece during debates and press conferences before. Presidents. Get pictures.

[Jacobin]

41. It may surprise you to learn that certain presidents

actually have a brain in their fucking heads, didn't completely fuck off in school for 20 years and actually received an education (instead of being drunken coked up party boys living on their daddy's money and prestige and, have the ability to speak contemporaneously and not sound like....well, George Fucking Bush!!

[wicket]

35. That's bull

Name one. Certainly not Clinton, Reagan or Bush I. I want to know my President can stand on his own 2 feet thank you very much.

[aden_nak]

3. Kerry should just challenge him.

He should just say, flat out, "Let's do this thing without the teleprompters, without the earpieces, one on one." Lay down some line about it being about the individuals and not the spinsters in the back. George will break into a cold sweat just thinking about it.

[Old and In the Way]

9. Exactly.......what a way to start the debate.

That would destroy George, if he can't have a ventriloquist supplying him his answers.

[gristy]

26. I agree. This is by far the simplest and most EFFECTIVE solution

If Kerry fails to do this, well, that's his choice I guess. Eventually they will make the damn thing so small it will not be visible externally. Then I guess you'd have to jam it. Should not be too difficult, because if it is so small so as to be not visible, it couldn't be a particularly sophisticated receiver that could resist jamming (say, by frequency hopping, but what do I know...).

[SoFlaJet]

5. I'm convinced he does

I remember this press conference, shit WHAT press conferences-one of his stupid repetitive stump speeches that they would show ON EVERY STATION CNN MS FOX and there was this weird frequency that had to be from his ear thingy-it was on every station too.

[lectrobyte]

7. I don't know, I don't think the earpiece helps him -- as someone

pointed out a few days ago in another thread, they thought he seemed much more lucid and able to put his thoughts together in paragraphs (they compared the 2000 debates to recent press appearances) and spoke more naturally, without radio control, as compared to today where he seems to get about four words out, and then stop and look into space for a few seconds, then repeat another phrase, or mis-hear a word and make up a new Bushism...

[aden_nak]

16. Help and Hurt. . .

In the context of a no-challenege press conference (thanks, American Media!) the earpiece probably helps as much as hurts. He doesn't spend as much time pausing or saying blatantly stupid things, and yet on the other hand, he does get some words messed up. However, things like "Ah-foo-muh-can't get fooled again!" are priceless gems that can only come straight from the ass's mouth.

In a DEBATE, however, where Kerry is standing not five feet away, the lack of an earpiece could spell his doom. Especially if Kerry comes at him with something that Bush hasn't memorized his talking points for. It might cause his speach patters to improve, to take away the earpiece, but it would definitely be a severe blow to the words making up those patterns. Just imagine it. . .

Bush: "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family, and to help your wings take dream!"

Kerry: "Moderator. . . could you please instruct President Bush to speak English."

[dubyaD40web]

8. Jamming it would be easy....

All you need is one of those keyless-entry thingiees from you car. Right after the question is posed, press one of the buttons and it should jam the signal. You would have to be close to the prez though (within 20 or so rows) for it to work.

[Fear]

10. See where the broadcaster is @ - take a dog whistle and blow it!

Most people will not hear the frequency but an ear piece does a WONDERFUL job in magnifying it to a hearable painful sound :D

[LibertyorDeath]

13. A dog whistle

That's brilliant.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

40. candy crowley starts howling for no apparent reason

too funny

[TacticalPeek]

44. LOL! n/t

[Poiuyt]

45. LOL!

Mean, but funny!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

47. No no Judy Woodruff I want to see her suddenly start howling

in PAIN. Hee hee.

[TacticalPeek]

48. Still laughing!!!

I'll have to breath any minute.

:silly:

[LibertyorDeath]

11. Info is out there

Early jammers were but a simple transmitter keyed on to a specific frequency producing a carrier which interfered with receiving stations.

Since the advent of ECCM (Electronic Counter Counter Measures) radio equipment, the simple single carrier jammer has become ineffective. Modern day ECCM radio equipment use such techniques as Frequency Hopping and Spread Spectrum technology to circumvent the effects of ECM jamming equipment.

Modern technology has lead to the development of modern jamming equipment employed in today's tactical environment. This new breed of equipment is capable of employing such techniques as wide-band rf spectrum transmitters, and various audio tones to jam or to spoof receiving equipment and their operators. Other more sophisticated systems are comprised of frequency tracking receivers and transmitters and utilize several large directional antenna arrays that permits directional jamming and creates deep nulls towards the "friendly area" to minimize the effects of the jamming.

http://www.milspec.ca/jammers/jammers.html

[Fear]

17. Jamming frequencies is a crime though!, so be ware with that, it's easily

tracable as well.

[Hoping4Change]

19. Would using a dog whistle be included?

[Pepperbelly]

20. not without two or threee RDFs and those do not come standard ...

issue anywhere except the military and even then, they are so seldom used as such that they mainly gather dust.

No, in the short span of time involved, it would be as close to impossible as you can get to be caught.

[Unperson 309]

50. Dog Whistle Isn't, Though!

Not that I have one or anything like that?

Who, ME?

309

"And she and Billy Joe was throwin' somethin' off the Tallahatchee bridge..."

[TexasSissy]

12. I never thought of this. Probably true.

That would explain the long pauses.

[LibertyorDeath]

15. Not a Premise actually caught on tape go to link

You hear his prompters voice first then he says the line.

I have lost the name of the great DUer who posted this but
many Thanks to you!

If anyone has the name can you let me know.

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/BushAndTheOddSync.wmv

[aden_nak]

18. I've heard about that.

Reagan died just afterwards, though, and the story got buried in the news.

[Stephanie]

21. I heard it myself on 9/11/01

On ABC in NYC, the speech from the WH that evening.

[LibertyorDeath]

23. Wow I wonder if there is a way to Identify the Voice

that is prompting shrub. I mean he lives somewhere he went to school somewhere. He may be married has friends.

A way to find someone who recognizes the Voice of Dimsons prompter.

Shit there must be a way!

This would be devastating for shrubs election campaign.

[wicket]

25. video

I can't watch that video at the moment, but I will as soon as I get home! :evilgrin:

[jackstraw45]

27. Thanks...was hoping someone would post that

Kerry's campaign NEEDS to address this issue.

[LibertyorDeath]

29. Hi jackstraw45 is this your Site

http://www.canofun.com/videoclips.asp

[jackstraw45]

43. No...not my site but thanks for the link....

NT

[democrat_patriot]

24. Will * actually accept?

Won't he try and weasel out of the debates?

1. "They're irrelevant"

2. "I can't debate those hate filled liberals"

3. "I have a schedule conflict"

4. "Tonight playing the part of * will be...."

[Kazak]

31. I'm thinking more like...

transmitting an ear-piercing screeching sound over Rove's instructions. :evilgrin:

[Disturbed]

36. J. Kerry should...

walk over to Shrub and look in one ear then walk around and look into the other. If he sees an earpiece he should walk back over to this podium and request to mod to ask Shrub to remove the earpiece. If there is no earpiece then the audience would wonder what the Hell Kerry was doing. ;)

[thecrow]

42. YES!

I love it!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

38. bobby kennedy

he supposedly had a jammer in his briefcase when he went to see lyndon johnson in the white house so he couldn't be taped.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

39. I agree with others here who say

to out him about it. Lay it down very CLEARLY that there are to be NO earpieces or other artificial prompting.

Among other things.

Make the rules public. Put them out there. He is NOT above the law, as he thinks he is.

[TacticalPeek]

49. And, turn over any stolen briefing books.

BOLO for George 'Black Bag' Will.

:evilgrin:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

51. Transmit a competing signal with someone who imitates Rove's voice

who can suddenly cut in and speak gibberish for Bush to repeat. I can hear it now:

"What I intend to do about world terrism? I'm glad ya asked that question. Unnhhh, ahhhh, Eenie meenie, ummmmm, unhhh, Chili Beanie....uhhhh, The spirts are 'bout to speak"