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floda Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:02 PM
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Are there any legal consequences of the illegal invasion of Iraq?
Can anyone shine a light on this?

I would think that if you invade a house because you think arms are hidden there and you kill some family members, allow the place to be looted, make it your new home and grab the household money, you can't just walk away with an "Sorry, wrong house" can you?

So what are the legal consequences of the, now officially illegal, invasion of Iraq?.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:10 PM
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1. Well, you see that's a big problem
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 05:14 PM by htuttle
There really isn't anyone able and willing to do anything about it. Beyond the ability to create some sort of meaningful sanction against the US, how many countries are truly willing to potentially sacrifice their own economic well-being to essentially 'make a point'.

And that's the big problem. Since the US gives no nod to international law, why should anyone else? The Rule of Law has collapsed entirely on the international stage. It's all 'dealmaking' now. Nobody really seems to give a rat's ass about Justice and Law.

Basically, we're right back in the 19th century, but with much more destructive weapons, and a lot more active nations involved.

The US -- as a people, not just George W Bush -- have forgotten WHY we helped create something like the UN in the first place. We have entirely betrayed the statements we made at Nuremburg.

Speaking of Nuremberg, here's what one of the former prosecutors had to say about the US rejection of the ICC.


With the ICC now a fact, the Assembly of States that will govern the ICC began to implement the organization and also the selection of the 18 individuals who will act as judges for the ICC proceedings. These judges were sworn in on March 11, 2003, at a proceeding that I attended as a guest of the government of the Netherlands. The ceremony was held at The Hague where the Court is to be located. By the time of this ceremony, 89 nations were parties to the Rome Statute and all were represented at the swearing in ceremony.No American government representatives attended the ceremony. I was one of two former Nuremberg prosecutors who were there. All that day – March 11 – I thought of Robert Jackson and how pleased he would have been that law-abiding states in this world of the 21st century had transformed his dream of a permanent court enforcing the Nuremberg principles into reality. Moreover, among those leading the way was Germany, which was the situs of his precedent-breaking prosecution against the top Nazis who were criminals. It is a matter of supreme irony that the path-breaking dream of an American for a world ruled by law based on justice is being translated into permanent reality by non-Americans.
http://www.roberthjackson.org/Nurembergandtheinternationalcourt.asp

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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 06:10 PM
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6. were there any legal consequences for the USA
for Vietnam and the more than 3 million Vietnamese killed (although Agent Orange victims are now suing for damages but they're going after the chemical companies - some time AFTER US soldiers won compensation)

Were there any legal consequences for the invasion of Panama killing 3000? or the arming and training death squads in Guatemala and El Salvador etc etc

Winners never pay and they get to write the history
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 07:09 PM
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9. "Winners never pay and they get to write the history" DITTO nt
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:11 PM
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2. You're joking right?
Legal consequences?
Ha.
About all that could probably be done would be economic sanctions & that would be pretty doubtful it actually happened.
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hvymtldrmr Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:30 PM
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3. Here's a link ..
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 07:07 PM
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8. Hi hvymtldrmr!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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katym Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:35 PM
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4. Oh if I were a superpower.....
...then I wouldnt ever have to worry about whether the things I did were illegal or not. There's enough outcry against the lies and laws as it is, but it will never go far enough to put anyone to trial for such.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:48 PM
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5. BushCo- War Criminals
What will be done about that?

Illegal Invasion of Iraq

Prison Torture/Murders, rapes, beatings, etc/Secret Prisons/Secret Prisoners


Nothing!
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 06:13 PM
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7. Chompsky on NPR today: we never look into our own war crimes...
the victor never does...just the loser.
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 07:10 PM
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10. We're the lone global superpower. Who's gonna force us to pay any
penalty? They'd have to declare war on us and win first.
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TomNickell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 07:25 PM
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11. No.
They covered themselves with legal figleaves and there is no court that could touch them anyway.

There is a possibility of prosecutions for subsidiary crimes--outing Valerie Plame, falsifying public records, feeding money to Halliburton.
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