German report on US child abuse in Abu Ghraib

[soundfury]

I donÕt understand the need to arrest and detain children.

Did the US honestly think that children had information of Weapons of Mass Destruction?

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http://www.traprockpeace.org/iraqi_child_prisoners.htm

"He was full of fear, very alone. He had the thinnest little arms that
I have ever seen. His whole body shook. His wrists were so thin that we could not put handcuffs on him. As soon as I saw him for the first time and led him to the interrogation, I felt sorry for him. The interrogation specialists doused him with water and put him in a truck.

Then they drove with him throughout the night, and at that time it was very, very cold. Then they smeared him with mud and showed him to his
likewise imprisoned father. With him they had tried out other interrogation methods. But they had not succeeded in making him
talk. The interrogation specialists told me that after the father had seen his son in that condition, it broke his heart. He wept and promised to tell them what they wanted to know."

The son however remained in custody, and the 16-year-old was put in with the adults. Yet Provance reported also about a special department, expressly for children. A secret children's wing in the horror prison of Abu Ghraib.

One person, who has seen the children's wing with his own eyes, is the journalist Suhaib Badr-Addin Al-Baz. Our correspondent met him some week ago in Baghdad. The Iraqi TV reporter related how he himself wasarrested arbitrarily by the Americans while shooting film and spent 74 days in Abu Ghraib."

"There I saw a camp for children. Young, under the age of puberty. In this camp were certainly hundreds of children. Some of them have been released, others are definitely still in there."

From his solitary cell in the adults' wing, Suhaib heard a perhaps 12-year-old girl weeping. Later he learned that her brother was on the third floor of the prison. One or two times, says Suhaib, he saw her himself.In the night, according to Suhaib, they were with her in her cell. The girl shreeked out to the other prisoners and called out to her brother.""

"She was beaten. I heard her call: 'They have undressed me. They have poured water over me.'" Daily, says Suhaib, one heard her crying and wimpering. Many of the prisoners wept when they heard her. Suhaib reported also about a sick 15-year-old youth. They chased him up and down the corridor with heavy water cannisters. For so long until he collapsed from exhaustion, says Suhaib. Then they brought in his father, also a prisoner. He had a hood over his head. From shock the youth collapsed once again."

[deacon]

1. I saw this story- it's horrific, supposedly it is all over Europe and

ignored completely by our press.

[soundfury]

3. Yeah, maybe our media will pick up on this. NT

[JSJ]

2. kicking US military torturers' asses would be a...

...pleasure.

[LittleApple81]

4. FORGET IT: The only hope is Hersh. And he said his article is coming.

Fact checking at the New Yorker has delayed it, especially because many of his sources DEMAND to stay anonymous.

[soundfury]

5. I can't wait.NT

[soundfury]

6. Kick

[maggrwaggr]

7. what's sick is that it dawned on me today that GWBush wants this

he wants Arabs to hate him for generations.

So he can have an eternal war.

It's the family business. War profiteering. He's got plenty of enemies now.

Thanks, George.

[soundfury]

9. Yes, terrorists attacks can only push his agenda. NT

[eridani]

8. From Occupation Watch

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=5906

A boy talks through an open window covered by cage-like mesh to an older boy at the Karkh juvenile detention facility in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad.

When the older boy sees a reporter, he ducks and quickly walks away. The reporter is not allowed to talk to him, or to visit any part of the prison on two separate occasions, other than the warden's office next to the prison entrance across an open courtyard from where the two boys are talking.

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More than 150 children ranging in age from nine to 18 are held there on any given day, both those convicted of crimes and those awaiting trial, Wali Jaleel Jabar, the warden at the detention centre, told IRIN. Families can visit the children once a week, Jabar said.

Another 58 children are currently being held as "security detainees" at Abu Ghraib prison and at Camp Bucca, US Lt-Col Barry Johnson, a spokesman for the Office of the Deputy Commanding General for Detainee Operations, told IRIN.

[soundfury]

10. I donÕt understand the need to arrest and detain children.

Did the US honestly think that children had information of Weapons of Mass Destruction?