This is not a joke, nor is it sarcasm...

[chicagojoe]

...How do we go about having Bush/Cheney et al declared as enemies as the U.S. ?

[Dookus]

1. well

that assumes there is some meaningful designation as "enemy of the US". There isn't. There are enemy combatants, who take up arms against the US outside of a military setting, but I don't know of any real legal designation of "enemy".

[chicagojoe]

4. Well, I was just laying out an idea. I guess the legal team would have

to work out the designations. I'll expand on my concept-- could, let's say, Congress or some Federal judge or some law enforcement agency declare these people "enemies", "combatants", "traitors", etc.?
Obviously, Asscroft would be of no help, but, seriously, is there any way this could be done ?

[Dookus]

5. No

there's no way.

The constitution has set up a good way for us to be rid of them: vote them out.

The fact is, Bush and Cheney are not enemies of the state, at least not any more than Bill Clinton and Al Gore were, and believe me, the far right called them that all the time.

Political disagreements and ineptitude doesn't make them enemies of America. I think they honestly believe they're doing right by America - I think they're just horribly misguided and have exactly the wrong priorities. They're wrong, but they're not enemies of the state.

[JSJ]

8. you're way, way too kind

'Political disagreements and ineptitude doesn't make them enemies of America. I think they honestly believe they're doing right by America - I think they're just horribly misguided and have exactly the wrong priorities. They're wrong, but they're not enemies of the state'.

Disagreements? Ineptitude? Misguided?

I hope you're only trying to stir the pot. If not, then take something for those delusions. They are the two most criminally culpable Executives in US history- try reading relevant DU posts if you're not sure.

[Dookus]

9. Thanks for the advice...

but I venture to say I might've read a few more DU posts than you have.

I stand by my statement: they're misguided, stupid, inept and venal, but their goal is not to destroy America. I didn't buy it when the freeps said it about Clinton, and I don't buy it about Republicans. It's the same argument that says all liberals are traitors - it's just silly hyperbole.

[Debs]

11. They just dont care

Perhaps they dont want to destroy America, they just dont care one way or another as long as privelege is protected. I think commiting Fraud on the American people to take us into an unnessasary war in Iraq fits the definition of criminals. My suggestion is to put Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld at least into handcuffs and frog march them to the Hague for a good trial. Once they are done with them we should have enough evidence to try them for violations of the convention against torture act. It may not brand them as enemies but it should keep them out of our hair for at least 20 years

[newyawker99]

12. Hi Debs!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[JSJ]

2. i suggest...

...we form a contigent of citzen-arresters and nab them on high crimes and misdemeanors. Then find a judge willing to try them.

[sweettater]

3. It's a sad day in America

when something like this is even thought about let alone mentioned. I agree with you.

[tommilator]

6. Their actions alone..

Should be enough. But since they are the ones who get to choose....

[ronabop]

7. What if they, say....

Gave away military secrets to foreign nations?
Outed spies?
Is there no way for the commander-in-chief to do something so egregious it would be illegal?

What if bush was openly murdering people on TV?

(Just pointing out that while "enemy combatant" status may be difficult, it seems like some thing would be illegal, contrary to what "I am not a crook" thought.)

-Bop

[HysteryDiagnosis]

10. Dissing the Geneva Conventions

(Just pointing out that while "enemy combatant" status may be difficult, it seems like some thing would be illegal, contrary to what "I am not a crook" thought.)<<

Do read here ----> www.brusselstribunal.org if you are interested in the opinions of some of the big brain people regarding the potentiality of trying these guys on warcrimes and other issues.

Dissing the Geneva conventions.... and the resultant many deaths of detainees in many many places puts the blame squarely on the shoulders of the one who said that they didn't apply to so called enemy combattants.