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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:02 AM
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Will there come a time that we post here about how great
America is, and what a good job a president or administration is doing?

My stress level is so high. I long for peace and a feeling of well being. With shrub, it's "Oh God, what have they done now?"

I want to be proud to be an American and beieve in MOST of what our government tells us, again.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:07 AM
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1. America is great.
We just have a deranged chimpanzee driving the train at the moment.
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:08 AM
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3. What did
chimpanzees ever do to you to deserve that sort of insult?
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:17 AM
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5. Chimpanzees no. they don't.
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 07:17 AM by DarkPhenyx
It's the deranged ones you ahve to look out for. Well, that and bunnies. But "we have a bunny driving" dosen't quite have the same impalct unless you realize just how evil the fuzzy little bastards really are. They are kinda like cats in that respect.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:07 AM
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2. Hopefully, in a year. Let's cross our fingers.
I have little doubt that Kerry will be an excellent President.
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TeacherCreature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:10 AM
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4. If Kerry wins the election and I hope he does
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 07:16 AM by TeacherCreature
we will still have a lot of work to do. I don't think peace is coming unless we force the issue. We are not going to be free of the tyrany of the WTO either. We are going to have to decide if we want to continue to be serfs in the world of multinational corporations. Don't look to Kerry to fix that problem.

If you are looking forward to this being a sovereign nation where were have influence as citizens and get to control public policy, it's not going to happen just because Kerry/Edwards are in office.
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:19 AM
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6. I Expect to Criticize President Kerry (damn, I Like the Sound of That!)
Certainly, he will make decisions with which I disagree, and I won't hesitate to influence his policy. However, I don't expect any disagreements that come close to angering me to the extent that *'s actions have done.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:32 AM
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10. I'm with you...
As much as Kerry wasn't my favorite, I can't imagine his actions coming close to inspiring the seething hatred I feel for the traitors who have stolen our country. I have never felt so invested in the future, and I will never again allow treason of this magnitude to be perpetrated on my watch. I will give Kerry a chance to prove himself, but I will not idly stand by should he or any elected official act against the interests of my family, my friends and my country.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:38 PM
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21. Count Me In, Too!!
You have said it as well as I could.

I can't imagine Kerry doing ANYTHING that pisses me off as much as Dubya even BREATHING!!! God I hate him so much!!
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:24 AM
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7. I'd been wondering
why, given that I've been in a near-constant state of anger since December 11, 2000, it's surprising that I haven't developed an ulcer some other major stress-related condition. But I think it's because this is a righteous anger that my health is excellent as always.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:24 AM
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8. dupe, sorry
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 07:25 AM by SheilaT
n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:26 AM
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9. Most at DU share your feelings. We love our country and want to see
as much as possible justice and decency being done.

Nobody thinks that Amerca ever did that perfectly before. We have done many terrible things in our history, and many good and decent and just things.

But my God, with these Busheviks heaping dishonor and disgrace and fraud and theft and murder (not of us...yet) on us all daily, how can you be proud at such a time?

I think of it like this: I loved America, the Old American Republic with it's faults and flaws and warts intact, but always try to make it better.

The Imperial Family and their Busheviks have given us Amerika, which in many ways (but not all) is closer in governance to Ferdinand Marcos' Phillipines than America.

RESTORE AMERICA!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:12 AM
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11. Healing is needed
During the Clinton years, the Repubs sought to divide and conquer by instilling hatred. Unfortunately they are running the current campaign on those themes of divisiveness.

Bigotry has always been present, but in the best of times; under enlightened leadership, it was inert. The Repubs, and Bush* in particular, bring out the worst in Americans by making them feel comfortable with their prejudices.

President Kerry needs to bring us back together. To appeal to our better angels, if you will, or else he will be dogged by demagogues for his term and the situation will never change.

I suspect he is being cautious in his campaign because in the end there has to be something left to govern. Bush is practicing "slash and burn" politics because he doesn't care. Kerry understands that he can't destroy America to save.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:42 PM
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12. I look forward to a day in early 2005
when the scandals have stopped, and our country is moving forward again, that we'll have at least 25% of the post in GD be something other than outrage.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:12 PM
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13. Just to get real for a minute--
--if we can get by rigged machines and get Kerry elected, the Rethugs are going to open a can of Whitewater-style whupass on him. They will contest his ability to govern on any matter from the trivial to the serious, starting 2 minutes after the inauguration. We have to keep after them as well as pushing Kerry in the direction we want. Which is why we have to pay attention to Congressional and State races too.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:11 PM
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14. I think we will close the gap in Congress
if not win one branch. You are right, the GOP will not go quietly, but now we have Air America, and the web to do our couter spin.
No matter how much they throw at Kerry, I doubt we DUers will be as outraged as we have with shrubbie. Freeperville is another story! LOL
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:15 PM
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15. If you're suffering from political fatigue, please read this
I got my issue today, and it REALLY cheered me up:

From The Onion

"Nation's Liberals Suffering From Outrage Fatigue"
WASHINGTON, DC—According to a study released Monday by the Hammond Political Research Group, many of the nation's liberals are suffering from a vastly diminished sense of outrage.

"With so many right-wing shams to choose from, it's simply too daunting for the average, left-leaning citizen to maintain a sense of anger," said Rachel Neas, the study's director. "By our estimation, roughly 70 percent of liberals are experiencing some degree of lethargy resulting from a glut of civil-liberties abuses, education funding cuts, and exorbitant military expenditures."

San Francisco's Arthur Flauman is one liberal who has chosen to take a hiatus from his seething rage over Bush Administration policies.

"Every day, my friends send me e-mails exposing Bush's corrupt environmental policies," said Flauman, a member of both the Green Party and the Sierra Club. "I used to spend close to an hour following all the links, and I'd be shocked and outraged by the irreversible damage being done to our land. At some point, though, I got annoyed with the demanding tone of the e-mails. The Clear Skies Initiative is bogus, but I'm not going to forward a six-page e-mail to all my friends—especially one written by a man who signs his name 'Leaf.' Now, if a message's subject line contains the word 'Bush,' it goes straight into the trash."

Neas found that many survey participants who attended protests against the war in Iraq in 2003 could barely summon the energy to read newspaper articles about the subject in 2004.

Portland, OR resident Suzanne Marshal compared herself to an addict, needing increasingly large doses of perceived injustices to achieve a state of anger.

"Even though I know how seriously messed-up the situation is in Iraq, I've became inured to all but the most extreme levels of wrongdoing," Marshal said. "For months, no amount of civilian bombing could get me mad. Then those amazing photos of the tortured Iraqi prisoners hit the streets, and I got that old rush of overwhelming disgust with my government. Then more photos came out, and more officials were implicated, and now—I don't know. It's like a switch in my head turned off again."

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4027&n=3
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:18 PM
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16. Yeah, when we agree with Kerry.
When we don't agree with him (and that will happen), don't expect the people on this board to just shut up about, or ask others to shut up.

If you're asking if this place will ever look like a liberal FR, then the answer is no.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:26 PM
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17. I agree there will be plenty
of legitimate critical Kerry posts, but hopefully Kerry will not over load us with such horrible policies and deeds as this crew. I don't expect lockstep goosestep like FR. (I have a lot of critical thoughts about Kerry, I just don't want any right wingers to come here and read them, and use them to get shrub 4 more years).
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:28 PM
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19. Oh, he'll be much better than what we have now.
I'm just saying (I know you not disagreeing) that there are a lot of interests and philosophies here, and Kerry won't make them all happy all the time.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:28 PM
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18. We had that feeling from 1992 to 2000, but the Monica story....
...ate up all of the available media space.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:29 PM
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20. ME TOO....
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