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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:13 AM
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The Washington Post is STILL hiding 1000s of Torture photos...COVERUP!!!
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 11:45 AM by jackstraw45
Just a reminder, in the midst of the weeklong Corporate Media Whoopifest, that the Washington Post is STILL hiding over 1000 torture images from Iraq.

Perhaps you'd like to CALL the Post and ask them why they are hiding these photos?

(202) 334-6000

Are they trying to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution?

Are they willing accomplices in the ongoing cover up of these crimes?

From http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0526/p02s01-usgn.html

"The Washington Post... has declined to run dozens of photos for a variety of reasons, in some cases because they're too sexual or violent."

International media is talking about coverup:

From Australia dated July 17 (hot off the presses):

" WASHINGTON - New cases of alleged abuse of Iraqi prisoners by US soldiers have been uncovered.....

However, a Republican congressional source said the Pentagon was "dragging its feet and intends to postpone any hearing until after" the November 2 presidential election.

"There's a lot of frustration over here," he said. "


http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,10156212%255E663,00.html


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:14 AM
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1. Yes! Call now!
Do it for the kids in Iraq.


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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:19 AM
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2. What evidence is there that the Wash. Post hss the photos? nt
nt
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:21 AM
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3. they mentioned 'em weeks ago in articles and online chats
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 11:35 AM by thebigidea
Falls Church, Va.: I understand there are more photos and videos that were not released. Will we see those released in the coming days?

Leonard Downie Jr.: We now have scores of photos of abuses in the prison and more video. But we are going to publish only those images that give readers essential information. Many of the images are so shocking and in such bad taste, especially the extensive nudity, that they are not publishable in our newspaper or on our Web site.

--

And I suppose it would blow the whole "abuse" label if people realized it was more than naked pyramids... I hate the answer the editor gives about this:

Washington, D.C.: Why do you label the tactics of the US military as "abuse" rather than "torture?"

Leonard Downie Jr.: Abuse is obvious from the information and images we have, and is serious in its own right. Torture is more loaded term and its use requires more information about whether the abuse constitutes torture.

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How utterly shameful that this thing dropped off the map, yet Scott Fucking Peterson gets hours of coverage daily.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:32 AM
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9. thanks, I wasn't aware of the online chat (nt)
nt
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:39 AM
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10. thanks, here is a link to the chat
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:24 AM
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6. It's fact - LINKED
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 11:36 AM by jackstraw45
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A5623-2004May5?language=printer

"Mixed in with more than 1,000 digital pictures obtained by The Washington Post are photographs of naked men, apparently prisoners, sprawled on top of one another while soldiers stand around them..."

And if many aren't of torture, why not show them and be open?

Pretty easy to do in this age of the internet.

They ARE hiding photos of abuse. No DOUBT.

This article is from MAY 2004 - evidence of the coverup is their new mention that many of the photos are of mundane tourist stuff. THAT WASN'T MENTIONED BEFORE but gives them an excuse to hold back the photos. Let's look to the other media for truth:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1103024.htm

"There are also images of soldiers simulating sexually explicit acts with one another and shots of a cow being skinned and gutted and soldiers posing with its severed head."

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/1-07092004-329063.html

"The Washington Post reported it had obtained images of England undressed and in sexual poses with a male soldier. Spec. Charles A. Graner Jr., 35, another soldier in England's unit, can be seen in some photos, The Post reported."

But don't take my word...read what the Post's OWN Ombudsman wrote:

"I do not, at this point, have answers to why The Post was slow off the mark on this story other than points I have raised in other columns. One is that war, including the period before it starts, requires alertness at all times and to all angles of the news. That's a high hurdle, but there is no bigger story. The other is that there needs to be timelier investigative reporting. The clues were there four months earlier, on the public record, and they were put there by the military."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A11271-2004May8¬Found=true
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:28 AM
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7. maybe all the relevant photos are the 10 which they showed (nt)
nt
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:30 AM
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8. no, they edited/cropped/culled
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 11:36 AM by thebigidea
Baltimore, Md.: Your decisions to publish certain pictures and to withhold others are inevitably subjective -- to some extent matters of personal taste. How many editors review the pictures, and has there been general consensus among them about what should and should not be published?

Leonard Downie Jr.: Many editors reviewed the photo and video images before deciding what to publish, according to the criteria I stated in some of my other responses in this chat.

Albuquerque, N.M.: You have indicated that you have more photos and video, were these supplied by the government or are they from your sources in the field? Furthermore you have stated that you will not publish all the photos or video in that they are too disturbing. Isn't it true that such photos could be edited to mitigate the most offensive part but yet still provide us a view of the degree of depravity the prisoners suffered? In short how do you select the photos and yet remain true to your duty to the public? Do you have a panel or do you yourself make the sole decision on what photos will be published?

Leonard Downie Jr.: We have already cropped some photos that we published to minimize nudity. Final decisions about what we publish are made by me or the managing editor, Steve Coll, after extensive discussion with other senior editors and our photo editors, as well, in the case of images published by washingtonpost.com, with its editors.

Laredo, Tex.: While I appreciate your concern about "taste," I am equally concerned about full disclosure of the truth. Don't you think that by "editing" which images of the prison the public may view, you are contributing to the sanitizing of an issue? Perhaps people would be even more outraged than they presently are, and a positive change in administration policy and accountability would be more likely to occur, if they had complete access to all the images?

Leonard Downie Jr.: We edit what goes into the newspaper and onto washingtonpost.com every day -- editing for length, relevance, taste, fairness, libel,etc. That is what we have done with these stories and images. We have not withheld anything from publication that would expand our readers' knowledge about the extent or seriousness of this abuse.


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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:40 AM
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11. Thanks, I stand corrected. I'll write the Washington Post. (nt)
nt
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:41 AM
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12. NOPE...read on
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 11:43 AM by jackstraw45
" And The Washington Post, which published another round of prison-abuse pictures on Friday, has declined to run dozens of photos for a variety of reasons, in some cases because they're too sexual or violent. "These are human beings, and we're trying to be judicious," says executive editor Leonard Downie Jr."

From

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0526/p02s01-usgn.html

Press wrestles with grim clips
Media extensively cover the prison scandal while rejecting the most obscene images.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 12:01 PM
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14. Thanks for the link to the link (nt)
nt
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:23 AM
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4. I Would Like to Know
how the WP came into sole possession of all those photos. It seems that someone knew they would be safe in the hands of the Moonie Press.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:24 AM
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5. you're thinking of the Washington Times
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:42 AM
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13. It's the Post that has the pictures . The Times is Moon's toilet paper
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 12:21 PM by jackstraw45
:)
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 12:20 PM
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16. OOPS! n/t
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 12:12 PM
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15. These include CHILDREN being tortured before their mothers!!!
Washington Post is covering those American war crimes up!! Unfuckingbelievable!!!

:puke:
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 12:23 PM
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17. Who benefits from this cover-up in an election year?
That's right...the war criminals in power.

Amerikan media has taken on the WORST of Soviet-era media practices.

ALL IS WELL COMRADES! ALL IS WELL!
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:44 PM
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18. bump...they are hoping you forget until after November....
:kick:
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