"Tinfoil hat option on table?" (editorial credits Web board "tinfoilers")

[Minstrel Boy]

Tinfoil hat option on table?

By Rich Lewis, July 15, 2004

Last fall, lots of people began posting the suggestion on liberal political bulletin boards that George Bush would try to cancel the 2004 presidential election if he thought he might lose.

I laughed at such a ridiculous idea — dismissing it as the paranoid ramblings of loonies in tin-foil hats.

Well, I'm not laughing any more.

...

OK, measure my head for one of those tin hats if you want to, but suddenly the idea of postponing the election is on the table and nobody seems to know who put it there or why.

Except those folks on the bulletin boards — and everybody knows they're crazy.

Aren't they?

http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2004/07/16/editorial/rich_lewis/lewis01.txt

:tinfoilhat: :hi:

[DenverDem]

1. My tinfoil hat is a badge of courage

signifying being correct, only way ahead of the curve.

Happened with Viet Nam in the 70's, with Nixon, also. People still haven't caught on to the truth of raygun's treasons, though we are correct on them. busholini continues to prove us correct et al ad nauseum.

[bobbieinok]

2. what kind of local response will this get?? what kind of area is this??

[mopinko]

3. like lily tomlin once said

i get more and more cynical the older i get, but it's never enough to keep up.
i am really just getting comfortable with my tinfoil hat. it goes so good with my grey hair.
hope this guy doesn't get a knock on the door.

[maggrwaggr]

4. I'm a proud coincidence-theorist

Funny how we're so far ahead of the curve, no?

I've sent out this:

http://cryptome.org/terror-coup.htm

"NO POSTPONEMENT, JUST BEDLAM AT THE POLLS AND A LOW TURNOUT ON THE WEST COAST IS BUSH’S PLAN FOR "VICTORY"


... to all my friends and got no response except for one, who is actually the most tin-foil-hattish of them all, and he thought it was extreme and paranoid.

Yeah right.

I'm in LA and am expecting sheer hell on election day

[Sporadicus]

6. Might Not Their Strategy Backfire?

Who is more likely to stay home and duct-tape their windows on election day...the brainwashed or the Democrats? Nothing short of tanks on the streets could keep me away from the polls.

[maggrwaggr]

13. of course. The Repukes are the biggest scaredee-cats

The Dem's attitude will be "if you're not dead, vote".

[kohodog]

22. and if you're dead, vote twice! n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

5. I'm a proud member of the Grassy Knoll Society.

Remember? A spokesman for the Carlyle Group (yes, the Carlyle Group, of all people!) tried to discredit Cynthia McKinney by making a smart-ass comment asking if she was running for president of the Grassy Knoll Society.

When I was a kid, my mom always said to believe nothing you read and only half of what you hear -- but that was long before FOX-TV or Rush Limbaugh. Sadly, a more realistic thing to teach our kids is "Don't trust anybody."

:-( :tinfoilhat:

[LunaC]

14. "Don't trust anybody."

So true....and such a very sad social commentary, indeed
!

[madmom]

7. I think I was ....

one of the first to bring this up and was pretty much ignored. God I hate being so good.A women's intuition is nothing to piddle with.

[Ganja Ninja]

8. Liberals have been right every time about Bush, the war and

everything. I don't know why people should think it's wild and crazy when we voice our suspicions about Bush and the BFEE. If you accept the premise that they are nothing but self serving rich a**holes that are willing to commit any crime to further their goals then the rest comes naturally.
The problem with a lot of people is that they don't want to face the awful truth. They want to think of America as the good guys and the last best hope of earth. They lash out at anyone who points out reality. They can't handle the truth let alone suspicion.

[iconoclastic cat]

11. I really hope that we break the streak on this one.

I don't want to be right about a fascist coup by Ayatollah Chimpness.

Worst of all, I think, is that it could happen without anyone really noticing until it was all over.

[Ganja Ninja]

12. Worse than that it could happen and people would

try to justify it. They certainly didn't give a flying f**k last time it happened in Florida. I'm constantly amazed at how the RW is willing to overlook it when democracy is thrown out the window so long as things go their way.

[LeftHander]

9. I don the Tin Foil hat from time to time....no problem.

It is a great way to walk through subjects by measuring all the aspects and all the angles.

When it is all said and done even the most unplausible reason can seem reasonable given time and information.

true story about tin foil...

A familiy lived several miles north of the ranch I grew up on in South Dakota and the father of that poor farm family was schitzophrenic. He wallpapered the entire inside of his home with tin foil to block the cosmic radiation beamed by the communisits from space. His entire family went off the deep end with him...wife, kids, pets....

[Minstrel Boy]

10. I'd like to research the history of the term "conspiracy theory."

When did it arise? Who popularized it?

I don't know if it predated the founding of the National Security State, but it sure came into its own then. Imagine that.

And documents we've seen leaked and declassified from the alphabet agencies advise (and notably, advise their media assets), time and time again, to employ ridicule and the smear of "conspiracy theory" to discredit those who challenge the official stories. Why? Because they have dark secrets to keep and deep crimes to cover up. And because it works. Who wants to be regarded as a woo-woo?

But one thing about the Bush years: the secrets are out of the shadows and right in our faces. It's easier to see, and easier to say: The Emperor Has No Coincidence.

[starroute]

16. The first conspiracy theories appeared with the French Revolution

All that stuff about Freemasons and the Bavarian Illuminati and such goes back to the 1790's. Fear of the Bavarian Illuminati was one of the factors behind the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798:

Indeed, New England was soon gripped by a panic that the (mythical) Bavarian Illuminati, a secret, French-controlled, atheistic, antidemocratic cabal, was conspiring to undermine American liberty and religion. Despite the absence of any extant Bavarian Illuminati, many believed that the United States was in grave danger and "the vast majority of New England Federalists accepted the conspiracy charges as entirely plausible, if not completely proven."{622} The evils of the Terror in post-Revolutionary France only served to confirm the awesome power of conspirators, for only a vast conspiracy could explain the otherwise bewildering series of events.{623} The image of the Terror, and the Masonic or Jacobean conspirators behind it, was one of the themes sounded to justify the Alien and Sedition Acts.{624}

http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/6095/articles/froomkin-metaphor/partIVA.html


Footnote #622 to this passage states:

622. Peter Amazeen, The Bavarian Illuminati Scare 3 (1988) (unpublished B.A. thesis, Harvard University); see also Vernon Stauffer, New England and the Bavarian Illuminati 229-43 (1918) (noting that the panic, which lasted almost two years, was touched off by a sermon given by Reverend Jedeidiah Morse on May 9, 1798, based on his reading of John Robison's 1797 book, Proofs of a Conspiracy Against All the Religions and Governments of Europe).

http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/6095/articles/froomkin-metaphor/notes-IVA.html#ENDNOTE622%22


However, I don't know when the actual phrase "conspiracy theory" appeared -- possibly not until the 20th century, since the word "theory" wasn't used much outside math and science until recently. (My son, reading this over my shoulder, suggests it may have been in connection with the Kennedy assassination that "conspiracy theory" first became a dirty word.)

[stickdog]

21. See, it's only DOMESTIC conspiracies that we find whacko.

We'll believe ANYTHING about those damn crafty FURINERS!

[Minstrel Boy]

15. "Hush now, don't you believe it"

Conspiracy Theory by Steve Earle

What if I told you it was done with mirrors
What if I showed you it was all a lie
Better be careful, someone might hear ya
The walls have ears and the sky has eyes
What if I said you were only dreamin'
What you wanna bet that all you gotta do
Is open up your eyes and you will wake up screamin'
When you realize that it's all come true

Hush now, don't you believe it
Cover your head and close your eyes
Now, take it or leave it
Go back to bed
Now don't you cry

Half a million soldiers fly across the water
One in ten are never comin' back again
Fifty thousand sons who never grew to fathers
Don't you ever wonder who they might have been
What if you could've been there on that day in Dallas
What if you could wrestle back the hands of time
Maybe somethin' could've been done in Memphis
We wouldn't be livin' in a dream that's died

Go on and tell yourself again there are no secrets
Go on and tell yourself that you don't want to know
It's best that you believe that you don't hear the footsteps
That follow you around no matter where you go
Maybe you were thinkin' that it didn't matter
Maybe you believed nobody else would care
But once you've added every little lie together
You finally find the truth was always waiting there

[maggrwaggr]

17. wow. strong stuff. n/t

[radwriter0555]

18. Honey, I told everyone bush would steal the election AND invade iraq. BUT

my friend dave mccgowan predicted 9.11.. right here....

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/Bush.htm

Creepy eh?

[hang a left]

19. He was right about alot of things.

Yeah and it is creepy.

[DenverDem]

20. Many of us were predicting this throughout the campaign of 2000.

Wham
Coup d'Etat

Bam
911

Thank you mam
The screwing of the nation

It was obvious to those with eyes to see.

[bobthedrummer]

23. I'm a realist about conspiracies and "hidden" history.

:tinfoilhat: