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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:21 PM
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Dubya's prof from Harvard Business School on AAR now
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 08:24 PM by Bozita
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:22 PM
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1. tell tell oh please tell come on teLL
please, grinnin and a wink
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:28 PM
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3. I've heard him before
Says Bush was a clown ... shallow ... nonsensical comments in class. Lacking in compassion ... lots of denials

"You always remember the best students ...and the worst."


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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:27 PM
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2. Thanks for including the link that made it much faster. Too good to miss!
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:29 PM
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4. you remember 2 kinds of students
"you remember 2 kinds of students, the really good, and the ones like bush." The professor

"lies came really easy to him." (top Bush)

biased against anything done after Great Depression. (Social Security, etc.)

"People are poor because they are lazy" GWB

"No racial descrimination in the US." GWB
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:34 PM
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7. Makes one wonder about the conversations and visitors...
... in the Bush household while Bush was growing up.

I read elsewhere that his professor, in an attempt to show Harvard students some of the hardship of the poor in the Depression, showed them "The Grapes of Wrath." Bush's assessment? "Corny."
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:36 PM
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8. And this was in the early 1960s!
No racial discrimination in the US in the early 1960s?

What a self-centered twit.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:39 PM
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9. Well, not exactly...
... Bush was at Harvard in 1973-4. Still, the civil rights movement was still fairly new, then, and the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act were still only a few years old.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:30 PM
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5. Ok why cant I ever hear these links? what am i doing wrong? n/t
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:32 PM
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6. Open RealPlayer. Then click on the link.
That should do it.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:43 PM
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11. .
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 08:44 PM by DaveSZ
-He says he's against the Securities Exchange Commission

-He also favors "reverse robin hood" where the working class supports the corporations and wealthy.

-He believes in the economic policies that brought on Great Depression


-Bush is purposefully bankrupting US

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:42 PM
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10. keeerist what a heavy accent--tough to understand him
what a hilarious picture I'm getting of Goof blowing bubbles and farting off while this guy scolds him! LOL!
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:47 PM
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12. after the break..
how many times did Bush come to class drunk!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:48 PM
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13. wow! He calls ShrubCo "neocons or Nazis" and says they're a
kleptocracy.

He's pretty awesome.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:49 PM
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14. i've heard this guy before and love him.
he's really unafraid to call out the dangerous actions of his former student, bush.

like his new terminology byt the way, kleptocracy. heh, damn right, we are being run by a gov't of thieves.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:52 PM
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15. thanks for the heads up!
:)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:55 PM
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16. Cheeze I couldn't listen, but I wonder what grade he gave *
and if it was above a D-, why so high?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:03 PM
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17. Grade inflation started in the 70s. To help students avoid the draft. n/t
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:09 PM
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18. I believe he couldn't talk about grades...
... since it was around that time that student records privacy laws went into effect.

But, what he does say about Bush's attitudes seem to ring pretty true today--so he hasn't changed much over the years. This reinforces the notion that he'll say anything to accomplish his aims, the first of which is to get elected.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 09:15 PM
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19. This guy can talk all he wants about what a numnutz shrubya was, but
they still gave him the grades to pass and get a degree from Harvard biz school. A disgrace for my alma mater.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 10:13 PM
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20. I hope no professor ever talks about
what I said in class. I was a communist back then.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 12:51 AM
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21. What got me is ...

.. that when he answered, he would say some BS answer and then go straight into confabulation.

I also heard a quote from Neil tonight where he said how George used to make him and Jeb dress up in their jammers and send them into the end of the hall so he could shoot BBs at them.

One should worry about a child who shoots BBs at animals for the sake of causing pain. One should REALLY worry about someone who does the same to human beings.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 01:00 AM
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22. wow
that is a story i havent heard. gosh if this is true, there is way more to the story. hence the evilness and meanness is born
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 11:37 AM
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23. Related article - I think it's the same guy
As the race for the White House heats up and the nation’s left-leaning heads come together to unearth potential skeletons in President Bush’s closet, one line in his resume has avoided major scrutiny: the time Bush spent just across the Charles River, earning an MBA at the Harvard Business School (HBS) in the 1970s. Now, as some fervently question the commander-in-chief’s performance in the Texas National Guard decades ago and more current-minded politicos take aim at the events surrounding Sept. 11, 2001 and the invasion of Iraq, one former HBS professor is doing his best to publicize his recollections of what he calls a sarcastic, mediocre student who went on to lead the United States.

Yoshihiro Tsurumi, an avowed opponent of Bush’s current views and policies who was a visiting associate professor of international business at HBS between 1972 and 1976, said Bush was among 85 students he taught one year in a required first-year course. In the class on “Environment Analysis for Management,” incorporating elements of macroeconomics, industrial policy and international business, Tsurumi said students discussed and debated case studies for 90 minutes several times a week.

Tsurumi—now a professor of international business at Baruch College in the City University of New York—said he remembers the future president as scoring in the bottom 10 percent of students in the class.

Thirty years after teaching the class, Tsurumi said the twenty-something Bush’s statements and behavior—“always very shallow”—still stand out in his mind.


...more...

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=503181
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