Bush told the Amish that God speaks through him

[Rose Siding]

Last Friday, Bush had a rather impromptu meeting with a group of Amish in Lancaster, PA. From the article:

"At the end of the session, Bush reportedly told the group, “I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.’’

(eeeee-z registration)
http://lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7564

Does this fit the doctine of any faith or sect? Is it Pentecostal? The closest (in my understanding, from memories of my youth) that Baptist dogma would get, is to be open to letting God's love flow through you to others.

What religion believes that God speaks through the president?

edit to add snip>
Bush had tears in his eyes when he replied. He said the president needs their prayers. He also said that having a strong belief in God is the only way he can do his job.

This story has not been reported before. You might think an observant press follows the president everywhere, especially during a re-election campaign, but no reporter attended this meeting.

Sam Stoltzfus, an Old Order historian and writer who lives in Gordonville, spoke with a number of people present at the session with the president.

He related what happened to the Scribbler, saying the Amish “caught Bush’s heart.’’

The 20-minute meeting with Bush occurred immediately after the president addressed a select audience at Lapp Electric Service in Smoketown Friday afternoon.

[salinen]

1. And here I thought it was the fault

of the C.I.A. God is so full of sexed up wisdom.

[Beloved Citizen]

29. You can't help but wonder...

...through which end of Shrub the Divinity sends his voice.

[lachattefolle]

38. LOL, you know which end!

[donco6]

2. I was a fundamentalist for 15 years . . .

. . . and I never heard that phrase.

Maybe charismatics might use it . . . ?

[Lindacooks]

3. I had no idea God was such a poor public speaker

eom

[Ohio Dem]

4. LOL

<files away for later use>

[TexasProgresive]

8. Double LOL,

me and the wife.

[DemBones DemBones]

12. LOL -- and I had to explain to

my husband why I was laughing! He was amused, too, even the (yellow) dog is smiling!

:7 :yourock:

[WillyT]

39. LOL !!! - Hey, Maybe It IS Pronounced Nukular ???

:shrug:

[Bluebear]

40. hehehehheheheh

[rooboy]

69. LOL - Rove will explain that the president speaks in tongues. n/t

[Carni]

5. How desperate IS this dumb ass?

Holding "impromptu meetings" with the freaking Amish??? LOL!

[T Bone]

51. The Amish don't even vote, do they?

Not that they would vote for this bumbling, lying, blasphemous, idiot.

[Scairp]

57. No, most don't

I have no clue why any presidential candidate would court the Amish vote, of all people. They don't participate in most governmental activities, including voting. He is a blasphemer for declaring that God speaks through him. I bet that didn't go over too well with the Amish, like it matters anyway. Shrub's desperation is showing.

[AntiCoup2K4]

59. Well, the good news is that if they DID vote....

...you know damn well they wouldn't use a Diebold machine :)

[foo_bar]

66. they also can't provide picture ID

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

6. Don't any of these religious people take offense at this kind of presump-

tion?:shrug:

[jeff30997]

7. I think that in his case ...

It have less to do with religious belief than with mental illness.

[markses]

9. When is somebody gonna demand THAT tape?

:eyes:

[Rose Siding]

17. There was no press

snip>
Bush had tears in his eyes when he replied. He said the president needs their prayers. He also said that having a strong belief in God is the only way he can do his job.

This story has not been reported before. You might think an observant press follows the president everywhere, especially during a re-election campaign, but no reporter attended this meeting

[Bluebear]

27. Demand this tape!

[wndycty]

70. LOL. . .

. . .that would be funny that Kerry would give up his tape for a tape of Bush showing just how much of a kook he is.

[leesa]

47. You just have to be dumber than a door knob to buy that act.

[Hubert Flottz]

53. He was crying because, Gawd told him he's getting fired soon!

Gawd gave brother Shrub the bad intell! And blamed it all on Clinton!

[lanparty]

10. I'm sure the Amish though that Bush was ...

A crazy English!!!!

Claims to channel god would get you burned at the stake in the middle ages. But at least we now know that Bush is officially schizophrenic.

[jeff30997]

11. I agree with your diagnosis.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

13. And besides, I think (although I may be wrong) that the Amish are one

of the religious groups, like the Jehovah's Witnesses, that don't vote on the principle of not being associated with worldly governments.

19. the Amish are all conscientious objectors, I know that

So they probably thought Bush was blaspheming.
My uncles and cousins and grandfather and great grandfather are in a church that is related to the Amish.
Amish, Mennonites, River Brethren, Brethren in Christ are all connected to each other and all pacifists through and through.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

28. Right

they don't vote. So....let's see if I have this straight: bush WOULDN'T talk to the NAACP, where he COULD HAVE (though not likely but still possible) gained a few votes, but he goes and cries for some Amish WHO DON'T EVEN VOTE!!!

And no press? I dunno, this guy does NOTHING that is not expressly a photo op.

So what the hell's that about? How did we find out about it?

14. The Amish were probably thinking this is why we avoid civilization

because of bozos like this guy.

[formernaderite]

15. You're kidding...he had the press at an event and said this?

Very weird indeed.

[Rose Siding]

20. No press...

snip>
This story has not been reported before. You might think an observant press follows the president everywhere, especially during a re-election campaign, but no reporter attended this meeting

[formernaderite]

77. No press present? How unlike Bush....

...wonder what the purpose of meeting with a bunch of religious pacifists was?

[merh]

84. Maybe no press and no photo op is because the folks

protecting * and his campaign staff were in a panic because he was cracking up so they took him to a group of folks that they know do not vote and will not publicize his whacked out moment of religious fervor. They wanted a group he could talk to and confess to that were innocuous. They saw him slipping into his crazy "chosen one" persona and to try to salvage what little bit of emotional stability he has left, they purposely allowed him to communicate with other holy folks.

* is losing his mind and they know it.

[aquart]

16. What did the Amish think of that, pray tell?

[sherrem]

82. The Amish are

staunch supporters of the ten commandments. "You shall not make for yourself an idol.." speaks to me in this instance.

The Amish make facelss dolls and do not allow their pictures taken (at least MOST of them) in accordance to this commandment. I can see Bush's statement that God speaks to him fall into this category.

I can't imagine the Amish taking this statement lightly, though will probably dismiss it as "something the English do".

[DemBones DemBones]

18. The Greeks would have recognized it

as hubris.

[fishnfla]

21. L'etat? C'est Moi! nt

[readmylips]

22. The Amish? Amish don't vote or take part in any....

government or non religious organizations, other than their own
Amish religion. Amish don't use electricity or any public utilities. They still drive in horse and buggies. They act very shy due to their religion, but they can be very gracious and friendly.

[gauguin57]

23. so ... on the same day he says God speaks through him ...

... the president flips off a bunch of teen-age protesters from his campaign bus.

Yeah, Amish. Yeah. This is a guy for you to flock around.

Yeah.

Can you say "disconnect"!!!???

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

30. What? Link??? Did he really???

[drscm]

24. My GOD! The man is an insane megalomaniac. eom

eom

[cal04]

83. I can just imagine if someone here said that

we'd be put in a straight jacket and taken away

[colonel odis]

25. later, god told the amish that bush is a lying little asshole. n/t

[Bluebear]

26. FBI to issue warning about Amish girls offering dessert treats

“One of the young girls wanted to give Bush a whoopie pie cookie,’’ Stoltzfus says. “Bush declined it. The Secret Service man took it, as presidents aren’t supposed to eat untested food.’’<

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

31. Reminds me of a king in the old days

who had "food testers". I understand the reason for it, just seems....weird.

[Bluebear]

32. Reminded me of the same. He could have taken it....

said thank you, not eat it and not made a big deal of it.....but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[grytpype]

33. Jeebus H. Christmas!

I think he is genuinely deragned. He has no contact with reality.

So let's take a look at our friend in need, the 20th Amendment to the United States Constitution.

There are two ways that an incapable president can be removed: one is voluntary:

Amendment XXV, Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

The other involuntary.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Two things to note: 1. this <i>requires</i> the agreement of the Vice President and, 2. either a majority of the Principals or a majority of some Congressionally-created body.

However, the President can fight back, which throws the question into Congress:

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

A two-thirds majority is required to remove the President in that case.

[donhakman]

35. Everything that comes out of Bush

is from God, including the shit that comes out of his mouth and the words that come out of his ass.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

34. The article made me LAUGH

They told him they don't vote but they'd offer him their prayers. This moved him to tears, but that ain't necessarily a compliment coming from religious people, I know.

Then there's this:

When the Amish were “found not to be a serious threat to national security,’’ they were allowed inside the office area of Lapp Electric and waited about 30 minutes for the president to appear.

“Babies got restless. Children squirmed,’’ Stoltzfus reports. “Suddenly the president and five Secret Service men stepped into the room. One housewife said, ‘Are you George Bush?’’’

Ok when the AMISH were found not to be a serious threat to national security??? LOL! And the one woman didn't know who he was (of course, no TVs), but I found that funny.

"Bush said he had never met any Amish before and was curious about why the men were wearing straw hats rather than black wool hats. The Amish explained that they wear cooler straw in summer. Bush tried on a hat."

Why can I just SEE this in my head? And dang if there were only photos of that moment. It'd be another great one just begging for a caption, wouldn't it?

The dude is SO like desperate. Amish. I love 'em, I respect 'em, but Georgie, they DON'T VOTE.

[Bluebear]

36. Picture after the meeting REVEALED!

"Samuel, who the hell WAS that? Wasn't too schmart in the head, ja?"

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

37. Oh and on the question of God speaking through him

I consider myself to be a Christian, but no particular denomination. I don't attend church. I have also studied Buddhism and Hinduism (not formally but for many years) and I know that when anyone says God speaks through them, I am immediately suspicious and think it is very arrogant to presume something like that.

And if you look at the Bible, you will see numerous instances of God speaking not through the rich and powerful but through the smallest and weakest in the world. Whether your God is Allah, Buddha (I know, not technically considered a God), Ra, etc.

What a dork.

[donhakman]

41. then moonbeam should be familiar

with the quote "if you meet Budda on the road, kill him"

[MichiganVote]

43. The phrase come from

Evangelicals. Who, BTW,don't rule out that God "speaks" through other Christians. Typical dry drunk arrogance and attitude. Lost in the neverland of, "I'm George Bush and ain't I sumthing"

I suspect that Georgie is trying to cummune with his lessers, the American public. He can say he is touched and has been touched by all Americans.(barf) But more importantly--visiting the Amish who are pacifists means no military families with sons or daughters in Iraq or Afghanistan to stir the turd.

What a major bullshitter, like anyone and everyone in the country doesn't know that farmers such as the Amish wear straw hats in the summer. Fucking moron.

George believes that his election is a done deal. His oil buddies will make it happen.

[Wilber_Stool]

42. I wish he'd tell him to

shut the fuck up.

[MisterP]

44. hats, quilt fraus

I thinks his meds are too high again
(though the Penn. Dutch retain much German--as the "Frau," or woman)

[ncteechur]

45. That wasn't God, it was his psychopathic alter-ego speaking.

[Mandate My Ass]

46. Definite messiah complex

ummmm, or maybe the DT's.

[chaska]

48. kick

[Solly Mack]

49. Time for Bush to go to the padded room

for his own safety and the safety of others

[banana republican]

50. Cry Baby..................

Bush had tears in his eyes.

What a joke thousands dead in IRAQ and Dubya has tears in his eyes....
poor baby...

[donhakman]

52. The ultimate put down of God.

[leftofthedial]

54. why aren't the religious nuts up in arms about this

arrogant, demented POS?

Gawd speaks through him. What a crock of unmitigated shit.

God speaks out my asshole and he says bush is a shit stain.

[ibegurpard]

55. Hopefully the Amish have better sense than half the morons in America.

eom

[Mr_Spock]

56. The sickness within this ruling chimp is devastatingly sickening to me

This guy has something talking through him and we are supposed to reelect this friggin' madman? People who vote for this psycho are real losers.

[dave29]

58. God has spoken through lots of famous madmen

The almighty likes a good spokesperson

[allalone]

60. three things

Why can't he just be Napoleon?
Did the Amish even know who he is? Did they care?
I'm kind of disappointed. I thought the anti-christ would be smart, charismatic, handsome and a worthy opponent not a bumbling psychopath. I feel gypped.

[HEyHEY]

61. BURN HIM!

He's a witch!

[allalone]

62. oh wait-four things

tears in the eye- old movie trick- drops of glycerin

[Glacier]

63. What a whackjob.

:freak:

[newyawker99]

74. Hi Glacier!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[IndianaGreen]

64. "What religion believes that God speaks through the president?"

It's not a religion, sweetie, it is called a psychosis!

[dave29]

65. Then he took their picture

and told them he enjoyed visiting their country

[pinniped]

67. Someone please increase the idiot's medication.

The idiot is speaking to the bottle again.

[radfringe]

68. is he bucking to be made POPE?

according to Catholic doctrine -- the Pope has a direct line to God

add in his quip about being a dictator and you have the makings of a theocracy

[AnnInLa]

71. get the story to IdiotDrudge

Maybe he'll report it, and it will circulate

[Citizen Daryl]

72. THE ONION CAN NOW GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

Reality is encroaching on their material.

[Hubert Flottz]

73. He was listening to Black Sabbath on 78 speed again!

Had a BAD flashback? Nutin' to see there, move on for Heaven's snakes! And the Chimp has his primate finger on the big red button of the Mother Of All Terrible Swift Swords too! I wonder if Shrub was teaching the Amish how to line dance while he was bumming? Shrub wanted all their Amish butter to butter up people at the fund raisers I'll bet!

Out of all the people Gawd could talk to, why would Gawd pick a self centered fool like that?

[The Flaming Red Head]

75. Maybe he was tweaking

I hear the Amish make some excellent meth.

[ellie]

76. Kicking,

because this thread is too hilarious to let die. I e-mailed it to four people!

[West Coast Democrat]

78. Would any Amish actually vote for such a Warmonger?

I don't see how they could.

[gauguin57]

79. For those asking about Bush's obscene gesture on same day...

After doing his little campaign stops and being a total phony in front of the Amish ...

He rolled through ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE Lancaster County, saw a bunch of protesters, and flipped the bird at them, according to three teen-age protesters (who have been featured on Air America's Al Franken Show).

Here's the description (and a fuzzy picture) of that event:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/jiveturky/185733.html

For information on other protesters ARRESTED in Lancaster (for those who haven't heard about the Smoketown 6 (thong-wearing, Abu-Ghraib prison pyramid re-enactors -- most clever protest of the millennium so far, I think) ... and the guy who mooned Bush ...)

Here's that link (in the local CONSERVATIVE paper, if you can believe it!):

http://www.lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/7449

[Geo55]

80. And....

did the Amish find their little brush with Satan's #1 agent ....
enlightening ?

[insidious]

81. If God really does speak through this baboon....

I hope he stops farting asap.

[Nikki Stone 1]

85. One more reason to put YAWEH on the ballot in November

I've been saying for awhile that Bush shouldn't run in November but, instead, the GOP should put Yahweh on the ballot. This way, the American people know what they are getting. Now with Bush admitting he is the human equivalant of a ventriloquist's dummy, shouldn't we get to vote or not vote for the hand controlling the puppet?