Sources debunking partial birth abortion anyone?

[K-W]

I tried googling, but there is so much pro-life propaganda on the web Im having a hard time. Anyone have some good sources on the truth about partial birth abortions?

[Dookus]

1. well

there's no actual medical procedure with that title, so if you google "partial birth abortion" you'll only find fundie whacko sites.

Try checking out Planned Parenthood's site or NARAL:

www.plannedparenthood.org
www.naral.org

[LandOLincoln]

3. The ACLU has information as well, IIRC.

You can find good sites by Googling PBA, but you have to scroll 'way down the page before the good sites turn up.

Wish I could remember the real name of this extremely rare procedure, but it's Friday night of a truly hellacious week and I'm drawing a complete blank.

Wait...Dilation and Extraction? I think that's it!

[papau]

2. partial birth abortion is not defined - and law as worded applies from

conception and as described in effect ban all abortions.

Dilation & Extraction procedures are called D&X, Intact D&X, and Intrauterine cranial decompression

Fetuses that develop hydrocephalus (1 in 2000 fetuses - or about 5000 fetuses in the US each year) will not live - and the choice is a hysterotomy, which is similar to a Cesarean section, or a D&X procedure, because the hydrocephalus is usually not discovered until the 3rd trimester (D&X for other reason are unethical in my opinion and I join with folks on the conservation "right to life" in saying they should be outlawed)

From: http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_pba.htm

Why Are D&X Procedures Performed?

This is a topic that is rarely discussed during public debates:

1st Trimester: D&Xs are not performed during the first three months of pregnancy, because there are better ways to perform abortions. There is no need to follow a D&X procedure, because the fetus' head quite small at this stage of gestation and can be quite easily removed from the woman's uterus.
2nd Trimester: D&Xs are very rarely performed in the late second trimester at a time in the pregnancy before the fetus is viable. These, like most abortions, are performed for a variety of reasons, including: She is not ready to have a baby for whatever reason and has delayed her decision to have an abortion into the second trimester. As mentioned above, 90% of abortions are done in the first trimester.
There are mental or physical health problems related to the pregnancy.
The fetus has been found to be dead, badly malformed, or suffering from a very serious genetic defect. This is often only detectable late in the second trimester.

3rd Trimester: They are also very rarely performed in late pregnancy. The most common justifications at that time are: The fetus is dead.
The fetus is alive, but continued pregnancy would place the woman's life in severe danger.
The fetus is alive, but continued pregnancy would grievously damage the woman's health and/or disable her.
The fetus is so malformed that it can never gain consciousness and will die shortly after birth. Many which fall into this category have developed a very severe form of hydrocephalus.

[DaveSZ]

4. The far right has think tanks that think of all these names

People like Cheney don't really care about kids, and indeed he may have even been in on the child torture in Abu Graihb.

They have all these wedge issues that they use to get people to vote against their own self interest.

[papau]

6. I think law is on hold because of no health of mother exemption

Appeals court ruled it unconstitutional.

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partial birth abortion is not defined - and law as worded applies from conception and as described in effect ban all abortions.

Dilation & Extraction procedures are called D&X, Intact D&X, and Intrauterine cranial decompression

Fetuses that develop hydrocephalus (1 in 2000 fetuses - or about 5000 fetuses in the US each year) will not live if severe - and the choice is a hysterotomy, which is similar to a Cesarean section, or a D&X procedure, because the hydrocephalus is usually not discovered until the 3rd trimester (D&X for other reason are unethical in my opinion and I join with folks on the conservative/liberal "right to life" in saying they should be outlawed)

From: http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_pba.htm

Why Are D&X Procedures Performed?

This is a topic that is rarely discussed during public debates:

1st Trimester: D&Xs are not performed during the first three months of pregnancy, because there are better ways to perform abortions. There is no need to follow a D&X procedure, because the fetus' head quite small at this stage of gestation and can be quite easily removed from the woman's uterus.
2nd Trimester: D&Xs are very rarely performed in the late second trimester at a time in the pregnancy before the fetus is viable. These, like most abortions, are performed for a variety of reasons, including: She is not ready to have a baby for whatever reason and has delayed her decision to have an abortion into the second trimester. As mentioned above, 90% of abortions are done in the first trimester.
There are mental or physical health problems related to the pregnancy.
The fetus has been found to be dead, badly malformed, or suffering from a very serious genetic defect. This is often only detectable late in the second trimester.

3rd Trimester: They are also very rarely performed in late pregnancy. The most common justifications at that time are: The fetus is dead.
The fetus is alive, but continued pregnancy would place the woman's life in severe danger.
The fetus is alive, but continued pregnancy would grievously damage the woman's health and/or disable her.
The fetus is so malformed that it can never gain consciousness and will die shortly after birth. Many which fall into this category have developed a very severe form of hydrocephalus.

[LandOLincoln]

5. Thank you. That's how it was explained to me by some of the Ob/Gyns

I work with.

[MissB]

7. I like this one - Eileen's Place

I think she posts here occaisonally.

Here is her home page http://eileen.undonet.com/

and here she talks about phantom pba's http://eileen.undonet.com/Phantom.html

She has some links to some statistics on the frequency of so-called pba's.

[gumby]

8. "PBA" is a right-wing wedge issue

You can read all about these procedures, but the bottom line is that this medical procedure has been sensationalized for political purposes.

The test is to ask if "PBA" (other procedures are more often used) was "outlawed," would the next procedure be sensationalized in the same way. Of course it would! Any other procedure would be next on the Cultural Warriors hit list, with graphics that exclude the woman just like they did with their phony "PBA" hysteria.

"PBA" is the way politics is practiced now. I think this article (want to read the book) explains the essence of the "PBA" debate, http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/16/opinion/16FRAN.html