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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 10:54 PM
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Coup d'etat in America?
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO407B.html

Coup d'Etat in America?
by Michel Chossudovsky
www.globalresearch.ca 13 July 2004
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO407B.html

<Legal procedures for canceling/rescheduling the elections are under study, at the request of DHS Secretary Tom Ridge, by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, which is examining the legal and constitutional implications. (Washington Post, 14 July, 2004)

The Military and Intelligence apparatus working in liaison with Homeland Security and the Federal Emergency Management Authority (FEMA) are indelibly behind this process, pointing to the unthinkable: the possibility of a Coup d'Etat in America.

Meanwhile, the cancellation / rescheduling of elections issue is presented to public opinion as a mere technical question, as a means to "protecting democracy," in the case of a terror attack. CNN has asked people "to vote" on their website, on whether they think the elections should be held in the case of a terror attack. It all sounds very democratic.>

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/TAR407C.html

Bush backers discuss canceling elections, Emergency Rule and Martial Law,
by Webster G. Tarpley
www.globalresearch.ca July 2004


<Newsweek said DeForest Soaries, chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, wants Ridge to ask Congress to pass legislation giving the government power to cancel or reschedule a federal election. Soaries said New York suspended primary elections on the day of the Sept. 11 attacks, but the federal government does not appear to have that authority.>

Rumor Becomes Fact as Bush Administration
Asks for Authority to Suspend the Election
by Michael C. Ruppert
From the wilderness, 12 July July 2004
www.globalresearch.ca 13 July 2004
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RUP407A.html


<What had been merely a rumor has now become fact.

The Bush administration has asked for legislation enabling it to postpone the November election as a result of a terror attack. While worded very carefully to suggest that an attack must take place for such a move, I do not see either of the stories unequivocally state that, if granted, these powers might not also permit elections to be "postponed" on merely a well-publicized threat. Don't believe the press stories. Read the legislation when it is introduced to see what it says there. If that discretion is included then we are at the edge of an abyss more dangerous than anything we have ever faced.>
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 10:56 PM
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1. they got away with it in 2000
the first coup was a thundering success, why would anyone think they won't do it again?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:00 PM
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5. By "First Coup", surely you mean
Nov. 22, 1963?
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:15 PM
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7. You know, I've been thinking
alot lately about 11-22-63 and the Texas connection. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but it seems to me that what started in Dallas that day has ended up in control of the WH and Congress. Do you think they've been working at it that long? It must be torture for them to have picked an incompetent idiot for the final lap; one who's about to f*** up all that work.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:54 PM
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13. Maybe everything is going according to plan --

certainly Halliburton, Carlyle, and others have profited from Georgie's misadventures in Iraq, and the country's in the red again, with the treasury having been paid out to political allies.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 10:58 PM
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2. Yeah, well,
let's hope the legislative branch of our gummint has a 'once bitten, twice shy' look at this. After all, there are at least some who thought, when they voted for the IWR, that they were only nominally giving Dim Son the power to declare war without their permission (or so they say, and I'm not being sarcastic). I think most of them thought there would have had to be a genuine threat for us to invade an otherwise non-attacking country.

Whether that will affect the ultimate destiny of this pile of crap remains to be seen. I hope at least 'our' representatives will take into consideration what the BFEE did with the last 'provisional' set of powers they were given.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:00 PM
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3. you mean tom delay and bill frist?
MUAHAHAHAHAHA
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:00 PM
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4. I'll have a gun ready ...

... and I'd fight to stop it.

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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:07 PM
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6. I just don't get it
If we are already in a STATE OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY

then why does he even need to ask for legislation?

It is my understanding that he can just do it with the stroke of a pen under War Powers

Am I wrong, can someone please explain this to me?

Are they just trying to pass the buck so it won't look like he was the one who did it? If, God forbid it has to be done?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:16 PM
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8. This is such transparently manipulative bullshit
that I just can't believe anyone with half a brain cell would even consider falling for it. NEVER EVER EVER EVER in our history have we EVER postponed or cancelled a presidential election, not even in our darkest moments, including a Civil War that tore the country apart, two World Wars and a Great Depression, among others. NEVER EVER EVER. And we were facing far worse in those times than we are now. Goebbels would be damn proud of KKKarl and the gang for this one.

It boggles my mind that we aren't hearing a peep from anyone in either the media or the public about this manipulative transparent bullshit, especially since we've seen this in other countries many, many times before. This is EXACTLY what Hitler pulled in 1933 after he managed to consolidate his power; I'm reading a new book about the 1930's right now by an Ohio University history professor, and the parallels are beyond astounding. THIS is the price we're paying for our historical ignorance.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:49 PM
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12. Please give us the title and author
I think I'd like to read it too!!

thanks
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 12:09 AM
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14. Sure, it's called
For the Survival of Democracy: Franklin Roosevelt and the World Crisis of the 1930's, by Alonzo L. Hamby. I'm on the beginnings-of-HItler's-power-and-the-rise-of-Nazism chapter now, truly frightening because he did exactly what Shrub wants to do with this election. And the public BARELY QUESTIONED him on it or anything else. They were too busy coming together under the "nationalist pride" he was making them feel. The Aryans, that is.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 12:14 AM
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15. thanks liberalhistorian
I'm about to go on vacation and need some light reading!:P
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 12:16 AM
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16. Yes, the parallels are eerie.
I used to have a tagline, "On the Eve of the Reichstag fire." I still wonder if we aren't.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:16 PM
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9. "Coup" is sooo 2000.
Try POLICE STATE in 2004!

Could get ugly folks. These guys don't want to give up.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:20 PM
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10. general strike
get the meme. general strike if voting is tampered with. marching is only going to bring down martial law. everybody just stay home. no working, no shopping. stop the economy dead.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:46 PM
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11. actually....
...the same crowd of industrialists nearly took out FDR in a coup, too. It was only the fact that the USMC general they tapped to take over ratted them out to FDR that saved the republic. Remember General Smedley Butler!
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