Is Kerry throwing a bone?

[malatesta1137]

to the retarted 45% of the American population, so as not to appear 'soft' on Terror? Or is he Bush-lite, just another PNAC pig seeking world domination?

Kerry Backs Much of Pre-Emption Doctrine

Friday July 16, 2004 11:46 PM

AP Photo WVMA102

By KEN GUGGENHEIM

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said Friday he would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he had adequate intelligence of a threat.

Kerry offered some support for one of the most controversial aspects of President Bush's national security policy, even as he criticized the president for not reforming intelligence agencies after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4319199,00.html

[FreedomReload]

1. Dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2011270

[Syrinx]

2. retarted?

Yep, the view that Kerry equals Bush is pretty retarted.

[Stew225]

4. if anything is retarted it would be

this, I suggest. The retartation of this whole administration is obvious.

[papau]

13. To use AP spin is also a bit dangerous

AP is not known to be fair to Democratic Party members or their ideas.

[emulatorloo]

3. Pre-emptive Strike against Terrorists sound like a good thing to me

This is not the same thing as bush pre-emptive strike on countries.

[LoZoccolo]

5. You confuse "pre-emptive" and "preventative".

Look them up and come back here before you accuse someone of being BushCo PNAC corporatist Skull & Bones icy Coke thick shakes sundaes and apple pies.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

6. Right

and are we talking pre-emptive of terrorist cells or COUNTRIES?

Big difference.

And what boosh and co. did in Iraq was PREVENTIVE.

[merh]

12. What the weed that would be king & his band of rethugs did in Iraq

was and is a war crime. He attacked, invaded and occupies a sovereign nation that did not attack or threaten to attack the U.S.

That's not pre-emptive or preventative, it is criminal and against the laws of our society, international laws and the laws of every God, including the one that supposedly told him it was his duty.

Retarded are the idiots who cannot read the substance of the materials they post and make the distinctions between * supposedly pre-emptive doctrine and Kerry saying "Am I prepared as president to go get them before they get us if we locate them and have the sufficient intelligence? You bet I am," -- Big Cheney Difference!

edited for obvious typos!

[kstewart33]

7. Guys if you're going to call people retarted, at least

Get the spelling right: retarded.

[LittleApple81]

8. Maybe he was trying to imply not only a tart but a a retart. LOL

[iconoclastic cat]

9. How about not using that term at all, especially as an insult?

I think it's a bit insensitive, don't you?

[onehandle]

10. Another Dupe.....

I bet it will be posted many times more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x691512

[Myrina]

11. Now, Malatesta ...

You should know better than to ask a question like that or dare to have an opinion of your own .... why, the KerrySheeple here at DU simply won't stand for anyone questioning the Savior.

:eyes:

[QC]

15. Oh please, another martyr.

Someone posts something that is a dupe by a factor of three or four and wasn't terribly interesting to begin with, someone else points that out, and suddenly we have a martyr, a veritable Joan of Arc being burned alive by the intolerant "KerrySheeple."

[malatesta1137]

19. dupes are a waste of time

but worse are the ones responding to them. Apparently the KerrySheeple crowd doesn't like to be reminded that John Kerry, as far as pre-emptive strikes as concerned, is just as corrupt as the Chimperior.

[LoZoccolo]

20. Apparently you don't like to be reminded...

...that there are a ton of responses to this thread you completely ignore.

[QC]

21. There's no need to bother with reading the responses

when one's only interest is stirring up shit.

[malatesta1137]

26. if you read #17

you'll know that I am not stirring up sh*t, but you certainly can't debate.

[malatesta1137]

27. you are wrong again

I've read them and responded, read #17

[LoZoccolo]

28. Right, and Kerry's policy is dissimiliar to Bush*'s.

And the only reason you think otherwise is that you confuse pre-emptive and preventative warfare.

Basically you think if someone's pointing a gun at someone, the cops shouldn't shoot them until they kill someone first. That's not a responsible position.

[daveskilt]

16. too cool for kerry - so nader then? or maybe bush? come on.

oops I just inadvertantly added fuel to your burning martyr complex.

kerry isnt the first choice for the vast majority here at DU - but he is the remaining choice and if it is that or bushco...

[BillZBubb]

23. Now, Myrina...

You should know better than posting quasi-Freeper attack lines on DU...why, the ModeratorSheeple might think you are a disruptor.

[seabeyond]

14. he is not soft in battle

afterall he vietnam era and playing a respectful role. he was participant and then activist in that time, in his twqenties. that is pretty damn cool. i am going to trust him on this one and listen as we go, knowing january 20 iraq may be somewhere totally different. after all the placed pm might have flat out murder 6 people, and that my friend is not democracy and what bushie promised

will be interesting how fed up the people become, once they start hearing this man a participant of our cia.

that we installed

that is baathist

that murdered, possible 6 people

[malatesta1137]

17. ok

so I misspelled 'retarded.'

but I didn't accuse Kerry of anything. I was asking if he's throwing a bone to freeperland or he's indeed just another PNAC pig.

and if the AP story is distorted right-wing propaganda, why hasn't Kerry corrected it?

I hope he does set the record straight, because the left is sick of this preemptive or preventive sh*t. Kerry IS looking like Bush on the issue and that stinks!

[Pastiche423]

18. The change, it had to come...

We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

We don't get fooled again?

[LoZoccolo]

24. Yes, when reason fails you...

...bust out that one Who song.

[Pastiche423]

25. lol

Reason has not failed me. But it seems to have failed some on this thread.

[sandnsea]

22. "Kerry Won't Attack Terrorists"

Is that a better headline? For that matter, is it a better plan?

[Moderator]

29. Locking....

This is a duplicate. The link is provided
in this thread.


DU Moderator