the bleaker it looks for BushCo, the more nervous I get . . .

[OneBlueSky]

because the bleaker it gets for BushCo, the more likely they are to do something really drastic . . . while watching Bush fall in the polls, I can't help but keep one eye open for the dropping of the other shoe . . . and, trust me, it will drop . . . all we can do is hope that, when it does, they fuck it up as badly as they've fucked everything else up (and the chances are very, very good, imo) . . .

if you thought things were bad up til now, stay tuned . . .

[amber dog democrat]

1. I feel the same way.

If the current junta would steal the presidency - they will do anything to keep it.
I am encouraged by the degree of stupidity and ineptitude that characterizes
most of what Chimpy and the Neocreeps have to date.

This does not mean they are not dangerous.

[AwakeAtLast]

2. I agree with you

Just how elaborate is anyone's guess. :tinfoilhat:

[maggrwaggr]

3. I've been saying that for months

because, yes, these people will do anything to stay in power.

They have no respect for human life -- they've proven that time and time again.

They havea no respect for the law -- they've shown that over and over.

That is why is BUGS THE HELL OUT OF ME that everybody seems to think "oh, we'll just vote them out of power and everything will be okay".

It will NOT be okay. These people need to be put in jail NOW.

[cliss]

9. Maggr, once again I agree with you.

Why do we always fall back on the notion (myself included) that everything will be FAIR? Is it because we've had the luxury of living in a quasi-democratic country (I use that term loosely) that we feel all that's needed is a vote in November?

Think of all those poor people in Africa and many other countries for that matter, who don't have the option of voting. Or if they vote, there is cheating at the polls. Or, how about a Coup D'Etat where the strongman blasts his way in?

We should NEVER assume anything with these guys. Assume, rather, that they will lie, cheat, steal, kill, bomb, blast terrorize a population to hang on with their claws.

[Ishoutandscream]

28. As someone here has mentioned

This administration would be taken out screaming and kicking all of the way. They will not relinquish power so easily.

[Skittles]

4. I hear you

yup

[scarletwoman]

5. Well, they already floated their "postpone election" trial balloon...

And they're certainly flogging the "terra attack around election time" theme pretty relentlessly these days.

I don't trust them at ALL, that's for sure. Right now, I'm having trouble fighting down my paranoia over the Dem national convention. Can you imagine the temptation? The entire Democratic Party leadership in one place? Just one little "terraist" bomb attack -- takes care of the opposition all nice and neat...

Never before in my entire life could I have imagined fearing my own government the way I do now. I HATE this!

sw

[Pachamama]

19. I was supposed to go to the Dem Convention & changed my mind....for

...the very reason you state in your post...I had a bad dream and decided it was best not to go...My husband was relieved because he didn't want me going with our 6 month old. He didn't mind when I marched in April on Washington, but he didn't feel right about me going to Boston. New York was definitely out of the question too...

I am nervous too...I don't trust these neo-creeps...they are dangerous and will stop at nothing to get what they want and hang on to power. Creating Fear has worked well for them, so why stop?

I never believed either that I would ever fear my own gov't and distrust them...its awful....and scary....

[burrowowl]

22. From here on in

I do not think it wise to take children to protests.
You are right to stay home.

[Pachamama]

38. I felt safe with my baby at the "March for Women's Lives" in DC, but this

..is different..I don't know what is a greater danger - Threat from Terrorists or our Gov't?

:think: :scared:

[burrowowl]

21. How young are you?

Never before in my entire life could I have imagined fearing my own government the way I do now. I HATE this!

Of course, it has mainly been other countries that have feared the U$ Gov. And I have to admit that things are getting uglier than in the McCarthy era with the HUAC.

[scarletwoman]

35. Better you should ask how OLD am I!

;-)

I was a kid during McCarthy era -- though I remember well hearing my mom and dad ranting in outrage about it. But by the time I was old enough to really pay attention, it was long over and done with.

It's not that I grew up trusting the government, I never did -- my liberal, progressive parents taught me well, not to mention the JFK, RFK, and MLK assassinations -- but never before this I have felt like the very foundation of our Republic is in danger of fully devolving into totalitarianism.

sw

[Pachamama]

37. 38 years young...

...but I'm feeling older w/ two kids under 4....Also, since I don't sleep much these days due to our administration, really old..

PS: My father-in-law who is now a retired Pac-10 Prof said this is the scariest time he's seen, way more so than the McCarthy era & Cold War...

[Rick Myers]

6. Right there with ya'!!!

There is NO underestimating the bunch of PREDATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Beam Me Up]

7. yeppers . . . But, you know what really scares THEM?

It's when we refuse to be afraid. When we refuse to hide our heads in the sand (or up our butts). And when we refuse to be distracted by all the titters and tatters and keep our focus, our eyes on the ball. That RALLY scares the hell out of them. It also scares them when we stand up to them and speak the truth -- especially in front of an audience. They hate that. They don't like it when we remind them that, according to the Constitution, THEY are in their positions of power by OUR CONSENT, the consent of the governed. Without that they are nothing but ordinary people just like us.

They don't like that. No, not one bit. They don't like the idea that the same laws that govern OUR behavior should govern THEIR behavior. They don't like it when, as they make laws to pry ever more deeply into our lives and thoughts, we turn the tables and begin to OBSERVE THEM closely, tightly, under a magnifying glass. They really don't like that at all.

SO, yep, you're right. The more desperate they get, the more dangerous they become. Frankly, though, I don't care. I've decided to NOT FEAR THEM --

Now THAT is Freedom with a capital "F".

[Arianrhod]

23. Precisely.

Turn on the lights, and the cockroaches scatter.

[Arianrhod]

24. Oops. Went up twice. n/t

Edited to remove dupe.

[indigobusiness]

33. Dreading their impact

is different than fearing them.

[LibertyorDeath]

8. I know this . This group of Megalomaniacs, sociopaths

religious whack jobs, & their sycophants will not relinquish power

no matter how many Votes are cast against them.

This is it I never thought I would see it in my life time. America is
positioning itself to Rape the World of its remaining resources & the
Fascists are not going to let 250 years of Democracy get in the way of their New World Order.

Look at what they have done in 4 short years. They have been laying the foundation for the American Police State right under the noses of a docile & media brain washed public.

The door is closing IMO but there is still a chance if enough people wake up to this fascist corporate state that is being born right before our eyes.


This is it they are about to try & consolidate Power


They will Destroy all things Liberal IMO

[PlanetBev]

11. There isn't a day that I don't wake up paranoid

I'm not even embarrassed about it anymore. The next four months will be like running a fucking gauntlet, where the Bush cartel will strew our paths with landmines, boobie traps, tar-babies and banana peels.

Emotionally draining are the words that come to me.

[LibertyorDeath]

13. Yes there is a major power struggle going on within

The American establishment & it's got my attention.

When someone like Seymour Hersh says this is the most important election
since 1860 all Americans who love Democracy should take notice.

All is not lost far from it but this Cabal of Criminals will put up
a fight like you have never seen They will use ever tool in their power
legal or otherwise.

They are going to lose the election if there is not massive Voter fraud & even if there is shrub is so hated they may still lose but this does not mean we have Won.

The corporate media & their biased polls make it seem close but I for one think this is spin the truth is the Majority of Americans think shrub is a colossal fuck up a walking disaster

Time will tell.

[TrustingDog]

10. they're not going to give up....

and will use all the powers they have to keep their positions. Makes me feel a bit sad when people get all hopeful and happy with Kerry/Edwards and November....

it ain't gonna happen.

[LibertyorDeath]

15. "it ain't gonna happen." Quite the opposite I'm

pretty confident we will win but that does not mean we have won.

It means they have to go to an alternate plan.

[Beam Me Up]

27. This is my view of it as well, LibertyorDeath.

IF there IS an election and IF the election accurately reflects the will of the people (two very BIG 'IF's), Kerry/Edwards will win.

However, that doesn't mean the fight is over. Quite the contrary. It will have been a hard one battle, but it is only one battle in a conflict we'll still have to win.

I believe we CAN win it but there are certain key elements that MUST be won first. Two very important ones are campaign finance reform and re-enactment of the fairness doctrine.

Like you and everyone else here, I do not doubt that the fascists will do everything in their power to complete their agenda. They have been working on it for more than fifty yeasr. If they have to regroup and rethink their strategies, they will do that and they'll come back at us even harder next time. We must find a way of exposing them, arresting them for their treasons, and seeing to it that they are punished to the full extent of the law.

[yardwork]

12. It's important for us to stay calm, focused, and upbeat

I mean this. Do not let paranoia take control of your emotions and your activities. We need to stay strong to win this battle.

I've seen an uptick in the number of "stories" in the media about scary terrorist-looking people on flights, possible terrorist attacks, etc.

It is clear that Rove and BushCo are turning to fear in an effort to regain control. Don't give in to them.

Keep up the drumbeat of insistence that papers and information be made public. Nag the media to nag Shrub to release his military records - it really makes W mad!

Keep the pressure on re: Plame, Medicare, 9/11, and all the other issues.

Nag nag nag. Do not give in to fear or hatred. That's the way to win this battle.

[LibertyorDeath]

16. Thanks yardwork have been doing all you speak of.

I'm trying to see the cards in the deck.

That's how we win the hand IMO

[tlcandie]

14. You can add me to this list ....

I'm not scared or paranoid, just have that feeling that nothing we do will matter because in the end they will screw us like we've never imagined or even dreamed!

There isn't a day that goes by that DUer's jaws aren't dropping from the gall and ignorance of this regime. No matter how hard we plan and try to side-step the things they put in our way, I just don't see how we can manage since they do NOT play fair. This is THEIR territory not ours and I'm not sure if we truly know how to fight against this type or lunacy.

[T Bone]

18. posting on DU is probably not the best way to fight Bushco lunacy

and I should know, because I have posted here enough. Getting out and working for any Democratic campaign will help you, your mood, attitude, and the campaign. Volunteer. register voters. hand out flyers. Drive people to the polls.

[Pachamama]

20. Personally, I post on the DU to let off the frustration I have from facing

the fight daily against Bu$h/FUCheney .... My husband has a stressful job and doesn't want to talk much about these matters (not that he doesn't care) because it stresses him out. He hates this administration as any of us, but just can't talk about it or he gets too upset. So, late at night, I get on and use it as a "release" and a forum to discuss things. During the day I'm active in a variety of ways - there isn't a week that doesn't go by where I haven't donated to a dem cause, called the House or Senate or written a letter to the editor....As long as we are all doing other things other than hanging on the DU, that is fine....but I personally feel the DU is a great place to release and re-energize for the fight the next day...

[cliss]

34. You're right.

The DU is my safety valve to let off steam, and that's important too. I remember when I first stumbled on the DU. It was completely by accident.

I was cruising Yahoo articles, looking for SOMETHING that would validate how I felt. I got a few crumbs of agreement. Then I found the DU. It was like getting a drink of water, after dying of thirst.

It felt SO good to be here, with people who felt the same way I did about Bush and his evil henchmen. I wasn't alone!!

I was enraged, angry at what they were doing to this country. I quickly earned my 1,000+ posts!!!

I'm feeling a lot better nowadays, by the way. There's unity in numbers. However, sometimes I feel that I'm preaching to the choir. I contacted my local chapter of the Democratic Party, and plan to volunteer. My goal is go sign up 150 new Democratic voters.

[Murdock]

17. In the end...

All we all truely have is this present moment, give your wives/husbands/kids/parents/bro/sis or whoever a huge hug.. take a deep breath of fresh air.. and enjoy the moments that we have left no matter what happens..

[HEyHEY]

25. Yah, I fear October

[dbt]

26. From Frank Herbert's Dune:

"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."

Personal to Dick (The Dick) Cheney: stick this up your scaly ass.

:hippie:
dbt

[Shredr]

29. Like all of you, I've been saying the same thing

for months. Do you think that if we're aware of it and make enough noise, they can't really do anything drastic? If we predict it then it happens, won't it just backfire?

[neebob]

30. I wake up every morning wondering what they've done

since yesterday to make the country and the world more FUBAR and hoping today won't be the day they do the thing that will take more than 100 years to fix.

[Jon8503]

31. Agree Here As Well

You are right there is nothing more scary than desperation which is where Rove & Co are I believe right now.

By the way have I been missing her or where is condolezza rice? I have not heard anything out of her for some time.

[indigobusiness]

32. The sense of foreboding

I've had, lately, is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

[Taylor Mason Powell]

41. Same here.

Foreboding is a great word for it.

[Anwen]

36. I feel the same way.

The Bushies aren't going to give up their power without a bitter fight. I, too, am worried that the lower he sinks in the polls, the more drastic their fighting tactics will become. Actually I'm not just worried, I'm downright scared...

[LunaC]

39. While I suspect many dirty tricks remaining up their sleeves

I also have a sneaking suspicion that it will backfire on them in a big way. Instant karma awaits them.

[Flubadubya]

40. If it's karma, it won't be instant...

They will have had it coming for a LONG, LONG time! :evilgrin:

[Jacobin]

42. With Five Carriers in the Pacific

I'm wondering if a suprise attack on N. Korea is the October Surprise. Someone else on DU posited this a week or so ago.

We all know how he loves to be a "war prezdint", and the "rallying around" he so misses since 9/11 has been outed as a giant fuck up.

[TexasSissy]

43. Agree. They're far too calm for people who know they're losing.

There's something up the proverbial sleeve.

[Auntie Bush]

45. I think they have Iran on their little minds. n/t

[homelandpunk]

44. well.....yeah-uh! The hotter it gets, the more I sweat.

Um. OF Co-o-o-o-o-o-o-oursssssse!!! STAY nervous.

[Wind Dancer]

46. I feel the same way!

I agree with the thoughts and concerns shared by all on this thread. I know they will not leave willingly, how long have they waited to be this position of power and control of all branches in the government. I fear for my family scattered throughout the country, my kids no longer at home.

It's scary, we all know how the country responded after 9/11 and we are being told this the most important election of this country's history.

I am involved in a letter writing campaign to voice my frustration re: the Plame investigation and several other issues demanding answers. We need to continue to fight and never give up.