Bush's religion

[defoliate_bush]

Is Bush part of the Baptist church?

[noahmijo]

1. I think he is a Methodist

I always thought he was a Baptist due to his pandering such religions which make it a point to bash Catholics.

I'll tell you one thing, he's no Christian. His religion is whatever works for him that's what he is.

[Cleita]

2. Somewhere it was said that he was a Methodist. I could

be wrong, but I think his real religion is the Church of Satan, but since they meet at midnight to celebrate a black mass, we wouldn't know about it.

[iconoclastic cat]

19. He's a Cthulhu cultist!

[vixengrl]

21. Heh heh heh--why settle for the "lesser of two evils"? eom

8>)

[newyawker99]

42. Hi vixengrl!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Cleita]

27. I always thought Cthulhu had more class than to

accept the Bush trash into his cult. One of these days someone really needs to explain this character to me and everyone else who is not in the know. Yes, I have read Khephra mention this more than once. :-)

[xocolatl]

37. Cthulhu for president!!!

See the campaign website!

[ChocolateSaltyBalls]

3. Bush is part of any Church in which he can.........

garner votes.

He is not a religious man on his own, he's only religious when it's politically advantageous.

[TeacherCreature]

4. He is a Methodist

Clearly he is not listening to his Methodist brethren.

[defoliate_bush]

5. Wow, that surprises me.

It seems like he would go to a more fundamentalist appealing-church. Most Methodists are pretty cool, almost like Episcopalians.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. Clearly he is not listening to his Methodist brethren.

Clearly he is not listening to his Methodist brethren.<<

Remember this?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32946
>>A group of leaders from President George W. Bush's denomination, the United Methodist Church, have signed a magazine ad asking the chief executive to "repent" of what they consider policies "incompatible" with Christian teaching, reports the Christian Times.

The group of 120 signatories to the document, entitled "A Prophetic Epistle from United Methodists Calling Our Brother George W. Bush to Repent," includes seven United Methodist Church bishops.<<

[TeacherCreature]

43. Yes I remember

Sad isn't it?

[Disturbed]

6. Yes, a Methodist. They voted against the Illegal Iraq Invasion!

GW is a Hypocritist. That's an off shoot sect of the Methodists.

[Auntie Bush]

10. I was under the impression that he was originally a Methodist but,

he became a Born Again Christion...or can a person of any religious faith consider themselves Born Agains? Not up to snuff of this stuff...but would like to know.

[salonghorn70]

23. Born Again

The term "born again" is freely used in the Methodist Church that I attend here in San Antonio. It is one of the largest churches in San Antonio. Most frequently, it is used to describe an adult acceptance of Christ. Many Methodists would not used the term to describe themselves. Those individuals have had a faith in Christ that matured since they were baptized as infants. That faith manifested itself through Confirmation. I assume that Bush was raised Episcopalian since that is the denomination of his parents. It is my understanding that the President had a religious experience about the same time that he stopped drinking, hence he describes himself as born again.

[mike1963]

32. I was 'raised' in the Methodist church, baptized there back in ....55?

Somewhere around there anyway...but I never heard the term 'born again' until many years later, after I figured out that religion is a form of mental illness and there are either millions or zero deities. I finally settled on zero.
:eyes:

[TeacherCreature]

45. yes everyone can consider themselves born again

And he may go to a more conservative Methodist congregation. Congregations do have their own characters.
I think Laura was the one who is Methodist and he addopted her denomination. He was raised Episcopalian.

[Citizen Daryl]

8. Some of the Southern UMC churches can be fundie. n/t

[carpetbagger]

20. Replace some with most here in Texas.

There's one liberal Methodist church in the city I live in. Although the bishops and clergy are still somewhat liberal in places, their capitulation to overseas clergy (e.g. the 2000 GC keynote address was an African bishop telling the gathering that they needed to choose between accepting gays in congregations and credibility in the third world), combined with their complete inability to teach their congregations what Jesus was about, has led the UMC to become essentially a fundamentalist denomination.

[salonghorn70]

24. I Totally Disagree

As a fellow San Antonian,:hi: ,and as a Christian who attends a large Methodist Churh here in San Antonio, I must disagree with your claim that the Methodist churches in San Antonio are fundamentalist. Of course, I can't speak for every single Methodist church in the city. I'm not sure what you mean by a "liberal" church but I can certainly say that my church is not fundamentalist. Does that mean that everyone in my church has the same views? No. There is a diversity of views that are united under the banner of Christ.

[daleo]

29. When it comes to religion, he seems more like a Method Actor

n/t

[allalone]

9. has anyone actually

seen him go to church? I haven't. There are usually pics of presidents going to church. Oh wait, he's not really the pres anyway so I guess he doesn't have to go. geez.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. I Thought He Was A

"South'rn Bastid"

[Rose Siding]

12. He was Methodist but he morphed to something else.

Methodists don't believe God speaks through the president and Bush does.

[Sparkly]

13. Church of Sanctimonious Hypocrisy?

:shrug:

[sallyseven]

14. He started his own religion. He is god

after all. Or at least god is sending his message thru him. Most peole get put away for those comments.

[RebelYell]

28. Saying that God talks to you or through you

is textbook psychotic

[jor_mama]

39. how about "Church of Sanc-torum-onious Hypocrisy"

.

[olddem43]

15. He's a total phony on religion too -

He was caught recently stating that his favorite bible verse was John 16:3. He didn't know the difference between that and the ubiquitous John 3:16.

[DemBones DemBones]

31. Do you have a link on that story?

The RW made that claim about Al Gore in 2000 but it was actually George Herbert Walker Bush (aka Poppy) who stated that John 16:3 was his favorite Bible verse. He undoubtedly meant John 3:16 and undoubtedly didn't know what John 16:3 says! It was likely just an easy answer for him, kind of like my friend who, when requested to memorize Bible verses in Sunday School, tried to get away week after week with "Jesus wept," the shortest verse in the Bible!

[Zen Democrat]

36. George HW Bush made that slip at the ... Christian Coalition convention

How appropriate!

[DemBones DemBones]

38. I didn't remember that! But I did hear

Cal Thomas (I think it was Cal Thomas) say that it was GHW Bush and he was the one who reported the story. I think it happened in 1992. Anyway, in 2000 a conservative friend sent me the story as being about Gore and unfortunately I was not able to disprove it until after the election. (Not that I think she'd have voted for Gore, anyway.) It really bothered me because I had a feeling that Gore never made such a mistake. He's a Southern Baptist, after all, and Baptists can usually quote scripture pretty well. Of course, anyone could make a mistake and transpose two numbers that way, and GHW was known for getting his words tangled, though not so badly as his eldest son.

[jmowreader]

41. John 16:2 is the verse he lives by

They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

God told him to kill all those Iraqis, after all.

[Calico Jack Rackham]

16. He's a

Jesus Jihadi.

[Swamp Rat]

17. Bush has his new messiah - MOON!

George W. Bush commands you to bow down to your new God, The Moon Messiah!

[RhodaGrits]

18. Bush is following in a long line of

people who have used the christian church to secure their own powerbase - going back to Constantine in the 4th century.

[Geo55]

22. He's a SATANIST...

with affiliational ties to The 1st Church of Delusionists

[libhill]

25. I could be totally wrong

but I don't believe the guy really takes religion seriously, regardless of his denomination. I think all the Gawd and Jaysus crap is just that - a cynical play up to the Fundies, to get their votes.

[Mr_Spock]

26. Based on Frankens book, you may be right. Franken seemed to

know more about the New Testament than the guy Shrub studied the Bible with for a year (what's that guys name?). Anyway, this W butt buddy is a finance guy in the Stooopid White House.

[AmyDeLune]

30. Mars! God of War!!!

no wonder he's so interested in getting there.

I think Bush takes his view of religion seriously, he really seems to believe that he's gotten the big "Oaky-Dokey" from God to do whatever he wants.

That's what makes him so scary, he thinks that there will be no personal consequences for his actions. He's as extremist as the terrorists who crashed the planes into the Towers. Now he's trying to crash America into the rest of the world. He'll be okay though, he'll be on Mars...

[Mr_Spock]

34. Well, I think what the guy above was saying is still true.

I think he cynically "goes through the motions" as it were to make it seem like he's all God inspired and crap, but I just don't think he is even intellectually aware of what it is he is aspiring to be. In other words, I don't think he knows his ass from a hole in the ground. He seems to have done far more coke than even I would have believed.

[DemBones DemBones]

33. Officially, he was raised Episcopalian, became Methodist

when he married Laura, a Methodist. Billy Graham, who's Southern Baptist, was a Bush family friend and influenced W a lot when he went through his conversion, but I believe he still considers himself to be a Methodist. He probably believes he was born again but I always think of a card I was once given by someone I believe to be a pretty true Christian.

The card reads simply "If you were arrested today for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?"

[Zen Democrat]

35. Here's the deal ...

Bush was raised Episcopalian. But that just means his folks were members of that faith, but the whole Bush family is definitely NOT religious. They became religious about the time the Republicans joined up with the fundies.

GW became a Methodist when he married Laura.

He had his "born again" experience with Billy Graham, if you can believe that. I can't. Just too convenient.

He's still Methodist but, uh, he never seems to go to church. Clinton went to church, Jimmy Carter went to church. But Reagan, Poppy Bush and Jr. rarely are seen in church except for election years. Gee, and they get the fundie vote? It's all rotten to the core.

[opihimoimoi]

40. The Expedient Prez wears religion on his sleeve for all to see

Reality reveals he is a fraud... does things counter to his "Beliefs" he is supposed to possess as a "born again".

He wasn't BA, he was fitted for strings......

[Jack Rabbit]

44. Bush is a Methodist, as is Hillary Clinton

This has to do with what?

[ChickMagic]

46. He may be officially Methodist

but these days he's pure Calvinist. I doubt he'd know what that means.

[mia]

47. A Mighty Fortress is His God

The Miami Herald: Posted on Sun, Jul. 18, 2004

PROSPERITY PREACHING

Like their president, conservative evangelicals accept a peculiarly American version of Christian rebirth. They rarely mention Christ's command: ''Sell all that you have, and give to the poor'' (Mark, 10:21). American Christians in general have never obeyed that command. In today's mega-churches, that message is known as ``prosperity preaching.''

As a disillusioned evangelical told The Philadelphia Inquirer on May 9, ''Prosperity preaching tells us that God wants us all to be super-rich right now.'' Poverty still exists in America, as Bush argued in the State of the Union address of 2003, because the poor fail to find true Christian charity among their neighbors. Hence, his ''compassionate conservatism'' requires ''faith-based initiatives'' by local churches and not progressive taxation.

Just as the president sees nothing wrong with his Iraq policy, he can't accept the view that his tax cuts are immoral. Bush is not disturbed by the huge transfer of wealth from poor to rich. He believes that returning moral choice and economic liberty to individuals matters more than any obligation of the rich to help the poor. He was entirely consistent when he urged his fellow citizens to react to the 9/11 attacks by going shopping.


...This version of the evangelical message has substantial benefits for Bush and the Republican Party. Large corporations are delighted to accept the evangelical attack on the state. They like to see the Federal Communications Commission relax regulations on media mergers; the Federal Power Commission ease strictures on energy companies; the Environmental Protection Agency modify air pollution regulations; and the Interior Department condone logging in the national parks. Bush easily raises record-breaking sums for his presidential campaigns from all the biggest corporations, even though only a few have evangelical chief executive officers....




...and God said to the prophet...
he wants us all to be super-rich right now.
I call on all patriotic Americans to act rich.
Go shopping! Charge it!
Bring glory to my...er..THE Kingdom!
Halleluia! Glory be to the Almighty...

[progressivebydesign]

48. He's a fake.

Is that a religion? Before 9/11 his day was reported to be.. wake up, eat, jog and work out, eat lunch. Then, have a few meetings, nap, play video games, dinner, t.v., then bed. ONce he because SUPERGODLYMAN after 9/11, his schedule no longer includes (or so we are told) video games and naps... he now spends his time in official meetings AND reading the Bible!! He's a nutcase. It's been reported that he swings between profanity laden tirades, and speaking in religious gibberish. He's not religious. He does NOT read the Bible. He does not attend church, unless it's for a photo op. Born again Methodist? Huh? Also, he likes to say now that God speaks through him.. if that's so... God has a very, very foul mouth and hateful tongue. He's a fake. Karl Rove KNOWS that winning the psycho Christian vote is the only way to get him re-elected. And, there's big money from the Falwell types. Rove could convince some voters that Bush was asian or female, if it meant it could get Bush re-elected.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

49. Good summary and disposal of the myth

I would add that he has lost many of the previously convinced that he is the son of god in his immoral war on Iraq. Jesus would not do that.