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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 04:59 PM Original message |
This speech by Granny D addresses those that bash Kerry incessantly |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. kick for the Kerry bashers that love to quote her |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
124. Kick for the narcissistic progressive movement! |
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Kat45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good speech. Who is GrannyD? n/t |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. a progressive activist that many progressives like to quote when bashing |
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Kat45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Thanks. Good idea. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. c'mon,name names |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
83. they'll still bash Kerry NSMA |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
70. Granny D |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. kick again |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. another kick |
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CBHagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. Tony Kushner has been more or less saying the same thing. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks for posting this. |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. Hear Hear!! |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. Two excellent threads on this topic today. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. it's a keeper and a handy quoter |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. Granny's suggestion here has already been rejected by the Dems. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Intellectualism must be intertering with your reading skills |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. This is the 21st century |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Probably another millenium of GWB gets re-elected |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. We are discussing the post-ABB post-election period |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Yes I am a lawyer..a state can't do so with a teaching license |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
86. And the silence is deafening |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 01:35 AM Response to Reply #86 |
123. Actually it's quite refreshing |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Kerry supports giving all rights of heteroexuals to gay couples |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. The issue is a state license |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. tell that to the voters |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. You are wasting your time. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
66. There is a whiff of "separate but equal" in the air |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. see post 26 |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 08:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
76. this quote: |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 08:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
77. If |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
99. Then choose your candidate who cannot win and lose it all |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Because that's who the voters picked |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Response - |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. sorry, but he isn't |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Then you're a better man than others |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. "let the progressives take over the Democratic party" |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Really? So how did Howard and Dennis enjoy their careers? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I think you misunderstand me, Teena |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No I meant there are far more progressives in the Dem party |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I KNOW there are. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Hey I was on your side in that one |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. best spent - as opposed to what? I'm voting for Kerry |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm sorry Uly....damn message boards |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. when either of them is the democratic nominee |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. well at least they both demonstrated they could get elected to AN office |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. are either of them the DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL nominee? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Knowing they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. i repeat: are either of them the nominee? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. well if you are voting for Kerry anyway, why are we arguing? |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. It is an ongoing source of amazement to me |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
82. well, i am a green party member |
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divineorder (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
115. Dean will at least be able to get something accomplished |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. thanks, ms cleo. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
28. "We can only enlarge our tent by attracting |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Truth is love...and setting the electorate up for 4 more years of Bush |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. what;'s selfish and narcissitic |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Oh come ON! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. please...wtf about disenfranchisment? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Did Kerry not assemble a legal team to arm against vote fraud |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. what about GORE? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. and was the media covering it? Have they yet? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
87. There's only one defense for Nadir |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
58. You know, sometimes they call the truth, tough love. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. Thanks, nsma, and Granny D!!! |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
36. What exactly does Kerry bashing mean? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. OK for the sake of these conversations, allow me to offer up my |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. I appreciate that interpretation. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. I think you're right simply because of the way those things are said... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I've gotta be short because of work demands |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. That's why I balk just a little at saying "I'm a progressive" as though... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. What's wrong with holding Kerry to Kerry's own standards? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. You're so into arguing with me you didn't notice I said there was |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
47. It's Simple. It's Either John Kerry or George Bush for Four Years. Choose. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. No one wants Bush, but... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:12 AM Response to Reply #65 |
79. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Granny D said we must take over |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
49. Not to be biased here, though I am... what a f*cking great post! |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
55. BRAVO! n/t |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
61. I LOVE Granny D! |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
62. Hey, I'm a recovering Deaniac |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. you're welcome |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
67. I Love Granny D but ... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. OK but let's take a closer look at that |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
85. Electing progressives won't necessarily give you |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
105. striving for consensus with you |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
71. At this point |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
72. "We require the perfect candidate..." |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
73. Hellooooo GrannyD! |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 08:18 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. you're welcome |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
78. Kick for Granny D |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
80. Here's to Granny D! |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
81. whose doors are unlocked and halls unguarded |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
84. I guess Granny's forgotten that progressives have been trying for the |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. She didn't say "pull the party to the left" |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Good luck with that. Hasn't happened yet in 40 years of heading rightward |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. because of leftists like you |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Gosh, you know me so well. Tell me more about myself, please. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #89 |
101. I think you don't know your history from your histrionics |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Trying to hold ground is good, breaking new ground is better. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Did you read the post? |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. But compared to what was accomplished under FDR |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Gee, I guess you won't even defend yourself |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. And I pointed out that the ground lost amounted to more |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Why won't you defend yourself? |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. All right. I admit I should have said from the get-go that the dems |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:44 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. And oh, you still haven't told me all about myself |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Baloney....show me ANYTHING Howard or Dennis could accomplish |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Believe me, I would LOVE to send Kerry to the WH with a Blue |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Will the Dems stand up to what? |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. They happened at unique times, so they don't count |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. not on disenfranchisment, and not on the coup |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. I am praying you are right and that we can come up with enough votes |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. i certainly hope not too, but i'm not optimistic eom |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. I am fine with making direct pleas |
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West Coast Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
91. My sentiments exactly! No one candidate can be all things... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I've contacted him. If I get an answer, I will post it on my website. :^) |
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West Coast Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Well I've had members of congress respond to my emails and letters... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. I get replies from Snowe, Collins, and Michaud all the time |
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West Coast Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Wait until he's elected President... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. I could try. Will be setting up petitions, too. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. even Kucinich wasnt that |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. Someone asked Kucinich about that on a radio show in Seattle |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
100. It's a hard rain agonna fall. eom |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
121. Very true....eom |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
125. kick |
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