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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 11:58 PM
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E-Mail From Bill Moyers NOW !

I sent this e-mail to Bill Moyers NOW:

From: Steve
To: Now@thirteen.org
Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:38 PM
Subject: Question About Now !

My name is Steve Senti, I own and run this
website:

http://www.oreilly-sucks.com

You may or may not know that Bill O'Reilly said
nobody is watching PBS or Bill Moyers NOW. I
thought I read that Bill Moyers NOW gets a 3.0
rating for his friday night show. Can you tell me
what his ratings are. I plan to quote O'Reilly's
lie and then post the real numbers.

I know PBS had 87 million viewers a week in 2003,
that's a hell of a lot more than FOX or the factor
get.

He also said PBS was bankrupt and that Moyers was
fired, any info on that would be helpful too. Just
give me what you can.

Thanks,

Steve

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I got this reply:

Dear Mr. Senti,

Thank you for your interest in NOW. It is indeed correct that our
most recent rating for the Friday night airing is 3.0. Mr. Moyers was not fired by PBS. (PBS does not have that power, because Public Affairs Television, which produces NOW with Bill Moyers and some other documentaries, is a separate organization. And even if they did, they would not exercise it.) Mr. Moyers chose to retire and take that opportunity to write a book on his years working for Lyndon Johnson.

PBS is far, far from being bankrupt.

Sincerely,

Marshall I. xxxxxxxxx
NOW with Bill Moyers

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Here is what O'Reilly said:

During the June 30 broadcast of The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly, O'Reilly and co-host E.D. Hill had the following exchange:

O'REILLY: Joan Kroc, the McDonald's babe, died and left her -- all her money to PBS, right?

HILL: That's right.

O'REILLY: And they're still going bankrupt over there, because nobody will watch it. Did you know that? PBS is going bankrupt.

O'REILLY: Nobody'll watch them. Gee, I wonder why nobody'll watch Bill Moyers. Whoa, I wonder why. Anyway. He got fired, Moyers, so we don't worry about that.

The truth is that Joan B. Kroc, widow of McDonald's founder Ray Kroc, left the bulk of her fortune -- more than $200 million -- to National Public Radio, not PBS, she left the $200 million to NPR O'Reilly you dumb ass.

Plenty of people watch PBS. Citing the Nielsen Television Index; "Over 87 million people in 51 million households watched public television during an average week of the 2002-2003 television season." They also note that "Americans continued to watch public television in greater numbers than any cable network during the 2002-2003 season," which means more Americans watch PBS than the FOX News Channel.

PBS is not going bankrupt either. According to its website, "PBS' operating revenue has grown from $262 million in FY98 to a projected $324 million in FY03, a 24 percent increase in just five years, largely from non-member revenue sources."

So Bill Moyers NOW gets a 3.0 rating, O'Reilly got a 1.9 for June. It looks like a lot of people watch NOW compared to the people who watch the factor.

http://www.cablenewser.com/original/q2chart.doc

And Moyers was not fired, he decided to retire after the november elections.




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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:02 AM
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1. Excellent
oh Really is a lying sack of puss
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:08 AM
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2. Wow - excellent catch
You have the POS O'Scumbag NAILED....

You should send this in to Al Franken too. If he discusses it on the air he may do a plug for your website.
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:22 AM
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3. rumguy..........

Great idea, but I get so many hits a month now I can not afford the bandwidth. If he mentioned my website it would probably eat up 2 weeks of bandwidth in one day. Then the website would just be offline until the 1st of the month.

Last month I ran out of bandwidth on the 20th of the month. The sad truth is, I don't get enough donations to buy the bandwidth I need to keep the site online for the whole month.

Unless I raise some money soon, the site will probably be offline part of July too.

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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:46 AM
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14. How much bandwidth ...
.... do you use? I hope you are not overpaying. You can get 50 gig for $45 a month.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:27 AM
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4. Archives here, if anyone feels like watching previously aired programs
I've got everything from Oct 03 onward archived online here

http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/NOW

and more on CDs (offline) so in case anyone wants an earlier episode, it can probably be arranged.

Nice e-mail exchange there, stewert :D

BIG Bill Moyers fan here, in case that wasn't completely obvious ;-)
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:38 AM
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5. stewert,
:yourock:
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:49 AM
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6. Excellent, Stewert
Great catch on another O'Reilly lie. You ought to give a call to Al Franken, he'll enjoy it.

I'll kick in a donation, hopefully others will too. O'Reilly's just ass enough to get a few Faux workers to overload your site.

Stewert has a donation link at his site: http://www.oreilly-sucks.com

Isn't there another web hosting company that can offer more bandwidth at a reasonable price?
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:17 AM
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7. Kick for the morning folks
:kick:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:23 AM
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8. This really has to stop somewhere
It should not be okay for someone to just spew lies like this. I watched a few minutes of FAUX and Friends this morning and they had the NY Post Washington Bureau Chief on there comparing the Bush* and Kerry crowds-- it was so painful to watch it because the audience they are reaching are probably eating it up. Something has to be done to make them put on the screen this is opinion and not fact.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:33 AM
Response to Reply #8
12. How were they compared? Size? type of attendees? How did they
bias the report? I am curious.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:44 AM
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16. The reporter said the Bush* crowds
Were larger than the Kerry crowds, but had no figures to back up her info. She also said that at the Bush* rallies there were families and "real people" and Kerrys' rallies were supported mainly by unions.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:26 AM
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9. Please send this to Media Matters for America
http://mediamatters.org/

They've been doing a great job exposing Bill O'Reilly for the liar he is, among other right-wingers, and I bet they would love this info :)
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:43 AM
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13. Media Matters
Media Matters has actually done a bit on this - http://mediamatters.org/items/200407060008
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:58 AM
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17. MMFA........

I got part of that info from MMFA. The new stuff they don't have is the e-mail from Bill Moyers NOW. O'Reilly said nobody watched NOW, yet it gets a 3.0 rating and O'Reilly only gets a 1.9 rating.

He also said Moyers was fired, but NOW says PBS don't even have the authority to fire him if they wanted to, which they did not want to do.




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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:11 AM
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19. Ratings
Definitely send the ratings info into them, it would totally shred everything O'Reilly's been saying! :)
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:31 AM
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10. Great job, stewert!
Sounds like you need to forward this to MoveOn.org - we need to continue our letter writing campaign - I am so sick of the ongoing lies and hatred spewed from the mouths of these corporate owned media puppets.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:32 AM
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11. Also, please send your info and a link to this thread to MoveOn
they may have this info - but then again they may not and you will have saved them some research. They will have fun with this in their suit against Fox.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:54 AM
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15. There's no way to deny it
Bill O'Reilly is a stupid lying son-of-a bitch.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #15
21. your forgot...
"...ugly..."

Now I normally do not pick on a person's physical appearance but in this case, the inner matches the outer.


Cher

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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:08 AM
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18. O'Reilly has had some sort of..........
Jones about Bill Moyers for years. He is either secretly in love with him or jealous as hell.
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:40 AM
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20. Two Things..........

1) O'Reilly hates Bill Moyers because he is a liberal, and he stands for everything O'Reilly opposes.

2) O'Reilly is also jealous of Moyers because he is a real award winning journalist, and he has actually won a peabody, and not just one, I believe he has won 5 or 6 of them.

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