"American fascists" among us

[G_j]

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-15.htm

The Ghost of Vice President Wallace Warns: "It Can Happen Here"
by Thom Hartmann

The Republican National Committee has recently removed from their website an advertisement interspersing Hitler's face with those of John Kerry and other prominent Democrats. This little-heralded step has freed former Enron lobbyist and current RNC chairman Ed Gillespie to resume his attacks on Americans who believe some provisions of Bush's PATRIOT Act, his detention of American citizens without charges, his willingness to let corporations write legislation, and the so-called "Free Speech Zones" around his public appearances are all steps on the road to American fascism.

The RNC's feeble attempt to equate Hitler and Democrats was short-lived, but it brings to mind the first American Vice President to point out the "American fascists" among us.

Although most Americans remember that Harry Truman was Franklin D. Roosevelt's Vice President when Roosevelt died in 1945 (making Truman President), Roosevelt had two previous Vice Presidents - John N. Garner (1933-1941) and Henry A. Wallace (1941-1945). In early 1944, the New York Times asked Vice President Henry Wallace to, as Wallace noted, "write a piece answering the following questions: What is a fascist? How many fascists have we? How dangerous are they?"

<snip>
As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

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[goddess40]

1. Isn't that like the pot trying to call a non-kettle black

"The Republican National Committee has recently removed from their website an advertisement interspersing Hitler's face with those of John Kerry and other prominent Democrats." They are the party of the fascists, McCain is the only Republican left that holds an office, and he is being converted too.

Isn't that the bully way, accuse someone else of your misdeeds, and not only take the heat of yourself but put it on someone else. Sick bunch of a-holes.

[seemslikeadream]

2. A bit more info on fascism

from Eloriel, thanks so much


"fas-cism (fbsh'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

The F Scale
(Measures one's authoritarian personality profile, which makes one receptive to fascism, based on research done after WW2)
http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm
link posted here: He's Acting Like Nixon in the Final DaysHas Bush Gone Over the Edge? (has some good links re fascist personality, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1725171

Fascism Anyone? by Laurence W. Britt
http://secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm


Umberto Eco on Fascism
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html


What Is Fascism
(This one is quite good and incl. two-tiered legal system as well as many other hallmarks, and Dr. Lawrence Britt's list, and additional links)
http://www.couplescompany.com/FEATURES/Politics/Structu...

Superpower Democracy (another must read)
http://www.greaterdemocracy.org/2003_07_01_gd.html#1058...

March 16, 2003 by CommonDreams.org
When Democracy Failed: The Warnings of History by Thom Hartmann
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

The NASCAR Nazi
Bush is creating an un-American America
http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/04/38/lost-washburn.php

It's time for another Bush/Nazis thread (Aug. 03)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853#199877

Nazification of America Phase 3
http://www.hermes-press.com/nazification_step3.htm

The Reichstag Fire and 9/11; Pretexts for Dictatorship and the Fourth Reich
Includes: Parallels between the Third Reich and the Bush Regime; 9/11 and the Reichstag Fire; What was the Reichstag Fire; Nazis in America; Poland 1939, Iraq 2003 http://www.oilempire.us/reichstag-fire.html


Bush's 9/11 Reichstag Fire by Harvey Wasserman
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0913-03.htm


20 Comparisons by Barrie Zwicker
http://www.deceptiondollar.com/news/BloorRemarks911-03....


The Bush Plan for America: The Rise of an American National Security State
By Jennifer Van Bergen, 14 December 2003 http://www.ftaaimc.org/en/2003/12/3232.shtml

Bush is *not* Hitler!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1868574


What Is Fascism
(This one is quite good and incl. two-tiered legal system as well as many other hallmarks, and Dr. Lawrence Britt's list, and additional links)
http://www.couplescompany.com/FEATURES/Politics/Structu...

Superpower Democracy (another must read)
http://www.greaterdemocracy.org/2003_07_01_gd.html#1058...

America, We Have a Problem
http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i4dodd.htm

There is no way to be both honest and polite about what has happened

[G_j]

3. excellent resources

another thank you to Eloriel, and to yourself for posting this.

love that pic of Woody BTW!

[mhr]

4. And Here Is America's Number One Foot Soldier For Fascism .....

Never Forget The Face Of American Fascism'THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE SKULL & BONES INITIATION...I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING A GOOD TIME. THESE PEOPLE -- YOU EVER HEARD OF EMOTIONAL RELEASE? YOU EVER HEARD OF NEEDING TO BLOW SOME STEAM OFF?'

[SEpatriot]

5. Take him at his words

It always bears repeating that the idiot-in-chief has a love for referring to dictatorship on a very casual basis:

You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier."
Referring to governing Texas (Begala Is our Children Learning? citing Governing July 1998)

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as long as I'm the dictator."
Washington, DC, Dec. 18, 2000, during his first trip to Washington as President-Elect

It's not a dictatorship in Washington, but I tried to make it one in that instance."
Chilling way to describe his executive order making faith-based groups eligible for federal subsidies, New Orleans, Louisiana, Jan. 15, 2004

"There ought to be limits to freedom."
In response to GWBush.com, a website parodying him

[bobthedrummer]

6. It happened here on 12-12-2000. A coup by the RW neo-fascists.

On this date in history there was an assassination attempt on Adolph Hitler. Historically a lot of the Third Reich ideology was welcomed in America, especially within the power elite. But there was a lot of general support, too.

The 1930's: Nazis Parading on Main Street
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/1930s.html

Hundreds of US companies and businesses profited with the Third Reich-even after the start of WWII.

Corporate Traitors
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/waryearsp5.html

IBM had a special relationship for customer service with the SS.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0241/black.php

Today we have what was planned for during the era of President Clinton, who was hated by some of the officer corps so much that they wrote about coups openly as the Revolution in Military Affairs/RMA proceeded to the "force transformation" of Donald Rumsfeld's crew.

Revolution in Political and Military Affairs/RPMA from USAF/INSS Oct.1996
http://www.guerrillacampaign.com/coup.htm

And we've discussed the Bush/Nazi nexus here at DU many times-at last most people are waking up, not a moment too soon.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853

[wadestock]

7. Facism is militarism + lack of democracy

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~semp/facism.htm

"IN 1918, at the end of a brutal and exhausting war, many Europeans were determined that another such conflict should never occur again. The Great War must be 'the war to end war'. Militarism was to be outlawed, state boundaries redrawn to take account of national identity, and human rights respected. In short, the world was to be made safe for democracy. The future would surely be the best of times. Twenty years later, however, such hopes seemed childishly naive. By then, one state after another had given way to authoritarian rule and a second world war was about to be unleashed. For many it was the worst of times; and the chief culprit, it seemed, was easily found - fascism, which the German novelist Thomas Mann described in 1938 as 'a disease of the times, which is at home everywhere and from which no country is free'. Quite simply, it was 'the plague of the twentieth century'"

[Karenina]

8. Kick!

:kick:

[kaitykaity]

9. They removed it?

I didn't know that. I thought they were impervious to any
and all criticism. "We can do whatever we want and we don't
give a shit what you think about it."

[G_j]

10. only because it backfired on them

not out of any sense of decency I'm sure.

[kaitykaity]

11. Backfired how?

I can't help but think about all the crap they've
pulled that's so much worse than this and nothing.

[G_j]

13. I suspect somebody thought

it was bringing too much negative publicity.
Its probably impossible to know.

Interesting how they claimed the footage was from an ad that Moveon.org "used" when in fact Moveon hadn't used it and in fact had pulled it.

[Kanary]

12. Thanks for the article......I'm circulating it to neighbor fascists I know

Although I really don't think there's anyway of waking up people who choose to sleep.

Thanks also for the other resources given later.....

Kanary

[LibertyorDeath]

14. Lots More

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=american+fascism