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freedomonk Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:45 AM
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kerry should fire berger
cnn reporting that sandy berger was observed stuffing his socks with classified documents at the library. and that's after claiming that he 'inadvertedly' took some of the documents home on 5 occasions. is this a joke?

he was working on the clinton's report to 9/11 comission, so this has absolutely nothing to do with kerry, he should just fire this guy.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/7/20/110408.shtml
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:46 AM
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1. You're quoting Newsmax?
n/t
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freedomonk Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:49 AM
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7. huh
i was quoting cnn and other cable news, that state that he put documents in his socks. who does that?

http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=113719&SecID=2

Berger said he knowingly took handwritten notes, but inadvertently took documents.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:51 AM
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12. But you put a link to the Newsmax site in your post.
Newsmax has been noted to be...creative...with news stories from other sources.
Even CNN
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:51 AM
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13. Where is the source for the "socks stuffing?"
Not in your link.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:49 AM
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8. CNN has been running this story a lot lately
Not that I think that it's a reason to fire Berger. Maybe, maybe not. They always note the Kerry connections - seeming to try to discredit Kerry in the process.

What I think every time they run the story - top of the news - on the hour - is where are all the stories about all the bad things the Republicans are doing?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:46 AM
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2. Newsmax quotes used to be frowned upon here. No links.
I remember we were not supposed to quote or link to them.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:48 AM
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3. Why are you passing on a lie?
I have not heard one credible source say he stuffed anything in his socks. He simply folded his hand written notes and put them in his pocket.

I bet every single person with this kind of clearance has done that before, not knowing exactly what is classified and what isn't. Documents can have portions that are classifed and portions that aren't, and they aren't marked with gigantic red letters saying "do not remove."

As I recall presumed innocence used to be an American thing.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:50 AM
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9. As Jon Stewart said:
"Talking points – they’re true because they’re said a lot."
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:49 AM
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4. NEWSMAX?
:wtf:
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freedomonk Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:50 AM
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10. it has nothing to do with newsmax
it was just a first article i saw on the search engine that i linked, i was talking about the stuff i am seeing on TELEVISION.....
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:52 AM
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15. We all take a shower after looking at Newsmax
it is a right-wing rag.
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:54 AM
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18. you watchin that ole fair & balanced faux snooze again?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:58 AM
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21. ON TELEVISION!!!!!!!!
Gads, it MUST be true if it's on the TeleVangical Box!!!!

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:49 AM
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5. BULLSHIT!
Freeper propaganda.

Karl Rove does not get to pick Kerry's advisors.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:49 AM
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6. Don't be so quick to accept the FIRST reports!
They just could be WRONG!

I listened to Gergen several other reporters on CNN who are presuming this to be a possible deterrent from info that may come out in the 9/11 report.

Hold on to your shorts for a while and see what's really happening.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:50 AM
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11. Firing Berger would be a huge mistake
why do you think Bush has yet to fire Cheney and Rumsfeld.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:51 AM
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14. whatever the source - if it is true then he should be fired post haste
this was idiotic and stinks

i think he should be prosecuted too, frankly, if it were intentional

i ahev worked in the US archives (researching) and this is reprehensible and clearly against the rules (if true)

i will, however, wait for all the facts but it does seem he has admitted at least some of this
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:53 AM
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16. How's that RNC internship going?
Excited about starting school at Bob Jones U in the fall?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:54 AM
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17. Look who got tombstoned.
Gee, what a surprise.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:55 AM
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19. CNN quotes "law enforcement officials" with the sock stuffing quote.
This has Rove written all over it. This is akin to the 'intern' story he tried to pin on Kerry. Who knows, maybe Berger was trying to smuggle out documents that bushie won't release.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:56 AM
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20. Hmm..... I saw a person on CNN this morning saying this was probably
much ado about nothing and David Gergen (someone posted this on DU earlier) said on the Today show, the timing of this leak is highly suspicous.

Why not let the facts play out before you demand action? Rushing to judgement and not thinking things out led us to the Patriot Act, remember?

Take a deep breath and wait for this to play itself out. It is possible that this is just a bunch of BS and I would give Berger the benefit of the doubt before I would KKKarl.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:58 AM
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22. Newsmax?
Now THAT'S a real credible source.This has been going on for SEVEN MONTHS,now they decide to come out with it? Ha! More republiKKKan bullshit to spread around. Anything to protect King George. :puke: The newsmax link shouldn't be on this board. It is one of the biggest rightwingnut hate site on the net.
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