Sandy Berger is a true American Hero

[Joanne98]

You can't fight the BFEE (Bush Family Evil Empire) without "breaking the rules". Bushco is a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION. A Mafia style EVIL global network of demons who have illegally taken over our goverment in a coup.
The only thing Berger has done wrong is get caught.
Remember, the Justice Department has been taken over by criminals. The media is covering up Bushco crimes. What are the "good guys" supposed to do? Shed your leftist puritan impulses. Support Sandy Berger and don't apologize for anything EVER.
We're all crime fighters now.
Berger wasn't covering up anything, he was collecting "human intelligence" to help fight "the dark side".
Thankyou for trying Mr. Berger.

I can't find his e-mail. If anybody has it please post it on this thread so we can send him letters of support.

[goclark]

1. I agree- thanks Mr. Berger

If they want a criminal have them look for ...GHWB, his whole family and Cheney and Rummy and on and on and on.
You are not a crook. You have not killed anyone.

What you did may have been careless but from what I can tell, Ken Lay needs to be tried and convicted before you are--
Hold your head up and tell them to look in their mirrors if they want to see crooks.

[mctrotter5]

2. I was so confused reading this charge against him, didn't he write or

at least work with all these papers originally with Richard Clark? Too bad we didn't have more courageous Demos, or maybe we do. Hopefully, this is just the beginning. So, if he is charged, what else would come forward to expose the Bushies. Just a dream, I know.

[Hoping4Change]

12. The salient point is that there is no net loss of documents,.

[Joanne98]

19. Your right

But you wouldn't know that from watching the news. The WH is lying (as usual) and the media is reporting their lies as facts. Sandy Berger is being framed. Give our Dem leaders some courage. Stand firm behind Berger.

[Hoping4Change]

26. David Gergen defends Berger says they're "Innocent' actions"

http://interestalert.com/brand/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/07200002aaa00bce.upi&Sys=rmmiller&Fid=NATIONAL&Type=News&Filter=National%20News



Furthermore Berger's accuser who says Berger stuffed notes into his socks is unnamed and the accusations remain unsubstantiated.

[Joanne98]

3. Dennis Hassert "blatant criminal"

And member and supporter of the BFEE is weighing in on the issue.
"Something sinister" says Hassert. Well you know what Dennis, YOU should know all about "sinister" since it's all you do for a living. It's your "job description". Go to fucking Hell you lying fraud.

[Mr_Spock]

9. Um, Mr. Hastert, we Dems are HOLDING BACK on a lot of things

because the press won't take them up because they don't want to be percieved as piling on. You want to start the "pile on" party - cool, we will finish it - biotch. Hide you're children because they may puke when they see the child-rape on TV.

[Joanne98]

4. BFEE afraid of ICC why? BECAUSE THEY'RE CRIMINALS.

U.S. House wants aid cut to countries that hand Americans to war crime courts
01:12 PM EDT Jul 20
WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. economic aid could only flow to countries that have agreed not to surrender Americans to a world court for prosecution of war crimes, under a measure the U.S. House of Representatives approved Thursday.

The 241-166 vote by the Republican-controlled chamber expanded the current prohibition on military aid to such countries.

The target of the amendment was the International Criminal Court, which began operating last year in The Hague, Netherlands. It is a permanent court that is supposed to enter cases involving genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity when the countries involved cannot work out a solution on their own.

"If these countries want to receive money from the United States, it's simple" - sign an agreement not to turn over Americans, said Representative George Nethercutt, a Washington state Republican, the provision's sponsor.

Nethercutt received backing from House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, a longtime critic of the court.

DeLay called the tribunal "Kofi Annan's kangaroo court," a reference to the United Nations secretary general.

DeLay said the court is "a clear and present danger to the war on terrorism and Americans fighting it all over the world."

If you haven't did anything wrong, than it shouldn't bother you.

Thankyou Mr. Berger. Your a true American patriot.

[KittyWampus]

5. Just Want To Say I Concur Wholeheartedly.

the criminals that have siezed control of our government are dangerous.

Whatever Sandy Berger was doing, it was for the greater good.

[Joanne98]

8. Thankyou

Bushco is playing for keeps. We have to stand behind any Dem that shows a backbone. Joe Wilson, Michael Moore, Whoopi Goldberg, Linda Ronstat, Sandy Berger all all getting trashed today.

All is fair in love and war. This is war and there's no going back.
Stand up, get a spine, fight back and protect the "good guys".

We are fighting evil. We should apologize for that? Ridiculous.
If the media was doing it's job this wouldn't even be happening.

Stay the course. Take the moral highground.

[N3WBI3]

16. We have to be consistent

If C. Rice had done this we would be foaming at the mouth (and rightfully so), how we can not condemn this is beyond me. You dont fight back the darkness with even more darkness, frankly I want the truth in these matters and what this man did to us as a nation today did not help..

[Joanne98]

20. Condi lied under oath to the 9/11 commission.

Condi (Bush's wife according to her) lied in a press conference when she said, "Nobody ever imagined blah blah blah". Condi lied under oath when she swore she had no prior knowledge. Ms. Rice has committed acts of treason against the United States of America and everybody knows it. She's not only a liar, a criminal and a traitor, she's an arrogant smart ass too. She's also fucking the President which she admitted herself when she referred to him as her husband at a dinner party and that's the truth.

[N3WBI3]

21. And this relates how?

And any of this makes what Berger did somehow heroic? Lets get real here, if she lied we should condemn her for it (umm lets see, yup you got that part down). If she is having an affair with the president Democrats should shut the heck up about it as we defended Clinton (You should work on that). If the action of hiding the truth is condemnable it should be condemnable for both parties.

Being partisan hacks wont help Democrats in the upcoming election. Condemning that in ones opponents which is lauded in ones allies is hardly progressive thinking..

[Joanne98]

23. I strongly disagree

Being a partisan hack is the ONLY thing that is helping the Democrats. If you can't defend your own friends how can you protect the country from terrorists?
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath and having an affair. Condi is lying under oath and having an affair.
It's our duty as the base of the democratic party to make this an issue and to make our leaders do so as well.

[N3WBI3]

27. When your party comes before your princaple...

Do you really win? I am not saying Democrats should not make Condi an Issue... I am saying if the party chooses to go down that path Berger needs to be removed from the Kerry campaign right away and distanced.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

25. So the Dems should shut their mouths? That's gotten us real far

Remember the 2000 election? Or were you happy with the results? :eyes:

[N3WBI3]

28. Are you seriously saying?

The Democratic party should make the Sex life (if any) between Rice and Bush an issue?

[KittyWampus]

30. If Condi Had Done This We'd NEVER KNOW!

whatever happened occured TEN MONTHS AGO with investigation ended in JANUARY.

Having been conscious during the last several decades, I've watched as the Far Right NeoCons have taken complete control of the Media and used it assasinate Democrat's Characters.

This is the MO of these motherfuckers.

The timing of this as well as the fact that the White House called CNN no less than THREE times to pound home the "Berger Story" is more than enough to indicate this is overblown NONSENSE.

Further, you have no IDEA WHAT SANDY BERGER DID.

So far, all we have to go by are the Right wing talking points being used to smear him.

[Joanne98]

6. BFEE crime links google search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Bush+family+crimes&btnG=Google+Search

There's too many to list.

Sandy Berger is fighter for good. Sandy berger=good BFEE=EVIL

[Pathwalker]

7. Oh yeah, let's just BELIEVE Dennis Hastert,

who has never been anything other than Tom Delay's puppet, and we all know how honest Tom is. :crazy:

Before anyone swallows Right-wing BUSHIT - at least TRY to believe in "INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty."

Remember Paul O'Niell????????????

[Joanne98]

10. Paul O'Neil is one of the good guys.

He was a big help with his 19,000 documents. Which btw, the lying media whores barely covered.

Paul O'Neil= GOOD Bush Crime Family= EVIL DOERS

[Joanne98]

11. Paul Krugman says............

The Arabian Candidate

In the original version of "The Manchurian Candidate," Senator John Iselin, whom Chinese agents are plotting to put in the White House, is a right-wing demagogue modeled on Senator Joseph McCarthy. As Roger Ebert wrote, the plan is to "use anticommunist hysteria as a cover for a communist takeover."

The movie doesn't say what Iselin would have done if the plot had succeeded. Presumably, however, he wouldn't have openly turned traitor. Instead, he would have used his position to undermine national security, while posing as America's staunchest defender against communist evil.

So let's imagine an update - not the remake with Denzel Washington, which I haven't seen, but my own version. This time the enemies would be Islamic fanatics, who install as their puppet president a demagogue who poses as the nation's defender against terrorist evildoers.

The Arabian candidate wouldn't openly help terrorists. Instead, he would serve their cause while pretending to be their enemy.

--snip--

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/20/opinion/20krug.html?h...

Which means, The Bush Family deliberately murdered three thousand of it's own people so they could rule the world.
Paul Krugman is coming up on AAR
Thankyou Mr. Krugman

[orthogonal]

13. No, he's not

Berger has handed BushCo an issue.

And we'll hand then another if we insist of holding our "side" to a laxer standard than we insist on for the Bush Administration.

If it weren't for Bill Clinton's willful moral blindness, we wouldn't have Bush, or Ashcroft, or Rumsfeld in office today.

[bluedog]

15. Security

How would you liked to have been the one to tell (bush) his SECURITY HAD BEEN BREACHED.
Mr.Berger has shown the republicans just how SECURE THEY ARE UNDER (bush).

[Joanne98]

18. That's a thought.

New meme: Sandy Berger is a true American patriot and hero who was just trying to expose security weaknesses that terra-rists could exploit.
Thank you Mr. Berger. You saved America from terror.

[Joanne98]

17. "Our side" has to get a dose of "moral clarity".

I'm sure Bill Clinton would have given up sex altogether if he had known that an evil, fascist, criminal regime was going to try to "rule the world" by force.
All bets are off. The only thing that matters is winning.
Circle the wagons, stay the course. Image does matter so work on exposing them. Bush Crime Family is Evil. Spread the news everywhere.
Bush=evil Bush=evil Bush=evil..............

[KittyWampus]

31. Bullshit! Democrats Could Walk Down Mainstreet & "Give Fascists An Issue"

haven't you figured out that they LIE?

They make a mountain out of thin air?

This has been done again and again by the NeoCons and their whore Media.

Maybe Berger was found in the investigation to be INNOCENT of any misdeed.

Did you ever think of that?

If not, why not?

[Joanne98]

14. Bob Novak is on CNN right now

Talking about Sandy Berger. hahahahahahahaha HAHAHA

This is the man who outed a covert CIA agent and committed an act of treason by endangering national Security. How Orwellian.

Stay the course.

[Joanne98]

22. For people who have a problem with moral clarity.

Will Pitt's thread on torturing children.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2021459

The Bushco has adopted a policy which approves of the torture and rape of children. The whole world is talking about this. Everyone it seems, except the "in major denial" American people.

What is worse? Torturing and raping children or stealing a few classified documents?

Thank you william Pitt.

[Joanne98]

24. Another Berger is getting smeared thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2028361#2028389

Bush wants to invade Iran.

[Joanne98]

29. Berger resigns from Kerry campaign

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x697973

Another shameful display of gutlessness from the Democratic leadership. I don't know who I hate more.